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Do not tell us we havent the right to choose!
vanity | 08.07.21 | Crz

Posted on 08/07/2021 8:16:27 AM PDT by crz

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To: janetjanet998

What’s interesting is that it’s not just the US the global elite are losing control over.

It’s around the world and I’ll bet they never expected it from the EU countries.


21 posted on 08/07/2021 9:18:43 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith…..)
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To: ifinnegan; crz; E. Pluribus Unum; TexasFreeper2009; janetjanet998; PGR88; Renfrew; JonPreston; ...

To those on the Left, they don’t see it as twisted at all (the defense of their choice in abortion versus their insistence that we have no choice over an invasive medical procedure on our own bodies.

One of the most powerful of human traits is rationalization, a process which often involves the fitting of information to justify a situation, even at the expense of truth and reality.

When we on the Conservative side attempt to rationalize things, there is no doubt we are subject to the same flaws and mistakes Leftists are. In our defense, we look at past performance and history, real cause and effect, and do it all in the framework of the Constitution of the United States, so I believe that more often than not we avoid those types of mistakes.

Leftists, who disregard the lessons of history, are ignorant of cause and effect and uninterested in it, and discount the framework of the Constitution have no such governors and make the same deleterious and destructive mistakes over and over again.

In the case of Abortion versus Masking/Vaccination/Quarantining, the comparison is illustrative.

To a large number of those on the Left, a nine month old baby preparing to exit the birth canal is not a human being. So to them, it has no rights, no need of protection, is no more than a “clump of cells” and therefore, the choice is only the woman’s and nobody else’s. The Left views the Pregnant woman as defenseless, the abortionist and the surgical instruments as their defender, and the baby and conservatives as the enemy.

To many of us on the conservative side, that nine month old baby not yet born is indeed a human being and worthy of protections. That nine month old baby inside that woman is utterly helpless and dependent, and as it is indeed human (to US at least) it’s protection with our society as its protector is not only worthy...it is mandatory. In this event, Conservatives ostensibly view the Baby as the defenseless, Pregnant woman and society as as the worthy and mandatory protector, and the Left, abortionists and surgical instruments as the enemy.

In the case of vaccinations, masking, and quarantines, the Leftists themselves in their minds are the totally vulnerable ones. They feel that they are utterly helpless and dependent, and as it is their individual lives that are human and precious to them. They view the government as their not only worthy but mandatory protector, and they view Conservatives and the Covid virus as the enemy. (I it also interesting to note that Leftists do not view Communist China as an enemy in this)

Interestingly, to many of us on the conservative side, we view our rights, liberties, freedoms, the US Constitution and even the very existence of our free country as being utterly helpless and dependent, as fragile and under attack.

We view it as utterly dependent on us to maintain.

We view Conservatives (and like minded patriots) as its worthy and mandatory defenders of those helpless things, and we view the Left, the Wuhan Virus, and Communist China as enemies, enemies with full malignant and predatory intent.


22 posted on 08/07/2021 9:22:23 AM PDT by rlmorel (Leftists are The Droplet of Sewage in a gallon of ultra-pure clean water.)
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To: rlmorel

Tone deafness is rampant. Obviously they don’t hear what they’re saying. Welcome to Auschwitz.


23 posted on 08/07/2021 9:26:50 AM PDT by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this? 😕)
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To: crz

I’ve read a lot of the replies on this thread and they all seem to say the same thing: I shouldn’t have my rights confiscated. Just what rights do people think they have. No “right” created by man is not reversible. So it is not a right, it is a privilege awarded by government.

And I blame this failure on the people. When our country was being explored and little towns were mushrooming up across it, it was the people of like theologies of life that made those little towns. And if the towns changed that theology to something that didn’t work for them, they had a choice: get rid of those that changed it or move on.

There are two ways to change it in the current time: revolution the people can’t win, or vote the lying crooks out. You saw what happened in the Sept 6 revolution. So it’s time to go to the poles and get rid of the graft. And it’s time to put the pressure on those put in to make sure the elections are honest. You can’t force it out, you have to vote it out and find those that cheated it and put them in jail. And that is the job of the people to protect themselves. The midterm is November 2022.

How important is it? During this midterm election year, all 435 seats in the United States House of Representatives and 34 of the 100 seats in the United States Senate will be contested. That’s the revolution that can be won.

wy69


24 posted on 08/07/2021 9:27:57 AM PDT by whitney69
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To: RetiredScientist

The whole problem here is..what is the truth?

When one of the lead researchers of one of the vaccines says that :We do not know what the end result of getting the vaccine is” makes for some real suspicions.

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3982759/posts

But as you stated, people react in all different ways to this..what I consider a Bio-weapon in the making.
The question is..why was Trump so spooked at one of the original pressers when this thing started out? IMO the above is the reason why.
One of my brothers, who was in the later stages of liver failure had it last DEC and it hardly effected him. His wife got pretty sick and ended up in the ICU for several days. Their son, my nephew, got it and although he was sick from it, he got over it well enough and did not require any medical attention other than the tests. A good friend had it and ended up in ICU oif 17 days and nearly died. The wife and I had it, and I was not that sick-like a bad chest cold, the wife was down for 5 days flat on her back. Funny thing, both her and my sister in law are Finnish. I wonder...

Anyway, the key to this is very early treatment with everything and anything possible. Dont wait till the oxy level drops below 90 and then go in.


25 posted on 08/07/2021 9:29:16 AM PDT by crz
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To: rlmorel

They know it is a baby. That is horrible truth.


26 posted on 08/07/2021 9:40:30 AM PDT by TianaHighrider (God bless President Trump. Prayers for PDJT and his loyal supporters.)
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To: Renfrew

Bingo.


27 posted on 08/07/2021 9:55:18 AM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: RetiredScientist
said, "I followed the protocol.. "
What protocol? Front line doctors? Do you mean CDC's which is basically wear a mask and treat everyone like they have leprosy
28 posted on 08/07/2021 10:02:40 AM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: whitney69
said, "you have to vote it(corruption out)"
We did in November. They cheated. What do you think this world wide plandemic is about?
hint: Hong Kong freedom movement was squished by covid rules.

sadly it seems the only way is for more to realize the medical industry has been turned into a death cult. This flu season is going to be bad.
29 posted on 08/07/2021 10:21:46 AM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: avrwc
That's the point. A vaccine doesn't. This isn't a vaccine. It's an experimental gene therapy called mRNA or Messenger RNA. From the NHGRI: Messenger RNA (mRNA) is a single-stranded RNA molecule that is complementary to one of the DNA strands of a gene.
31 posted on 08/07/2021 11:46:38 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all.)
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To: Steve Van Doorn

“We did in November. They cheated.”

I also hold the blame for the availability of that to the people. If a travesty of this type is accomplished, where were the GOP people fighting for this? No where. So are these same people being hammered by their constituents? I haven’t seen anything of it. It has been swept under the carpet by the politicians to include the GOP’s that were elected to work for our best interests and values.

Libs don’t care about anyone but themselves. Look at Texas. When they couldn’t argue the vote into happening, they went on a vacation to D.C. They stropped it with the only way they could. But they were passionate enough to do something dramatic for their misguided values walking away from their lives in Texas to prove a point. The GOP had all the and witnesses and evidence locked up in states to do it from their armchairs and they haven’t even made the effort to attack the libs.

So is that their fault for doing nothing? Or is it the voters faults for putting them in there to do nothing. But both screwed up and many of these do nothings do nothing all the time.

So who’s the biggest do nothing? They can’t put the voters in a position to mess it up again if they throw out these losers at the polls. You may get another set, but they will have to do nothing and get launched again until we get some do somethings voted in and they actually do. But in the mean time concerning who is to blame...chicken/egg. But there is no egg without the chicken these days. The chickens (voters) need to do better so we all can.

wy69


33 posted on 08/07/2021 12:02:21 PM PDT by whitney69
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To: whitney69
So it’s time to go to the poles and get rid of the graft.

And it’s time to put the pressure on those put in to make sure the elections are honest.


34 posted on 08/07/2021 12:48:47 PM PDT by MarvinStinson
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To: TianaHighrider

Yes. That is a horrible truth.

And that shows the extreme danger of rationalization.

We can rationalize nearly anything. And if you can rationalize that a nine month old infant still inside the mother is not a human being, you can rationalize that adults you are lining up to execute are not human beings.

We have actually seen that in action before, haven’t we?


35 posted on 08/07/2021 1:51:05 PM PDT by rlmorel (Leftists are The Droplet of Sewage in a gallon of ultra-pure clean water.)
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To: MarvinStinson

“So it’s time to go to the poles and get rid of the graft.
And it’s time to put the pressure on those put in to make sure the elections are honest.”

It took a long time for the GOP to get to a point where they were more scared of being embarrassed or they might lose their jobs. And with their work, it doesn’t even appear they are frightened of that. But that’s the point we’ve reached. Courage has been replaced with timidity and fear of failure. The GOP has fallen into a complacent attitude of subservience to whoever it takes to keep their jobs.

And this is why I voted twice for Trump as he wouldn’t take any $hit which is what made him diffeent and so damned good. The first month in office he threw the liberal media off AF1. During his tenure put his foot on China’s throat and told them to put up of shut up. He made Kim Jong-un look like the lost stupid puppy he is and called his bluff so Un was laughed at in the world. He forced employment back to the US and filled jobs inside the country. Middle-Class family income increased nearly $6,000 – more than five times the gains during the entire previous administration. The unemployment rate reached 3.5 percent, the lowest in a half-century. Achieved 40 months in a row with more job openings than job hirings. More Americans reported being employed than ever before, nearly 160 million. Jobless claims hit a nearly 50-year low.

There’s more but I’m reminded of offensive guard Jerry Kramer of the Packers when he talked about Lombardi. Kramer said, “The attitude was we never lost a football game...we just ran out of time.” But that team wanted to win. The GOP doesn’t. They want to collect their checks for participating, not playing.

Start drafting a different team voters cause playing the same failing people won’t win anything for anybody except the players and their free ride checks. Stop being coerced. You wouldn’t buy a car or home you know won’t do it’s job. Why elect politicians that won’t do theirs. Get some more Trumps and you might be able to keep the home you are in and not lose that one. Then you can use your gains to buy a better one. It’s called success and not subservience to those that are getting success off of you.

Unfortunately you may be in for a long search. With the GOP bailing on Trump, they have set a standard for the party of not backing anyone that wished success, They let him die. Who are they going to get to have the courage and resolution to do what’s right? One person can’t do it alone. The last one that did that was voted out, illegal or not. The GOP set their pattern and everyone knows it.

GOP - Grand Old Pusillanimity

wy69


36 posted on 08/07/2021 3:16:06 PM PDT by whitney69
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To: whitney69

“The GOP has fallen into a complacent attitude of subservience to whoever it takes to keep their jobs.”


37 posted on 08/07/2021 4:30:42 PM PDT by MarvinStinson
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To: ifinnegan

Their logic is right out of Orwell’s “Animal Farm”, it was a prophetic warning, not a challenge


38 posted on 08/07/2021 9:18:43 PM PDT by Conservative4Life (But he that sinneth against me wrongeth his own soul: all they that hate me love death:Proverbs 8:36)
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To: MarvinStinson

I was working overnights a couple years back and listened to Coast to Coast AM. The guest made a comment to the effect that “The elite cabal had control of the world since the turn of time. And 244 years ago, a group of partisans took control over their lives and country and ever since then, the Cabal has been fighting hard to retake it.” (Not exact quote, but that was the jist of the comment, and it has stuck with me ever since I heard it)


39 posted on 08/07/2021 9:27:46 PM PDT by Conservative4Life (But he that sinneth against me wrongeth his own soul: all they that hate me love death:Proverbs 8:36)
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To: Steve Van Doorn

Who is terat ?


40 posted on 08/08/2021 1:38:02 AM PDT by JonPreston (Q: Never have so many, been so wrong, so often)
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