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The Surfside Collapse. So What Happens Later With The "Still Standing Condos"?Two Obvious Scenarios.

Posted on 06/27/2021 4:07:32 PM PDT by TealsGuy17

What is likely to happen with the "Still Standing"half of the condo building is probably a no win situation for the owners. The first option is a worst case scenario. The second option is after all the debris is cleared, engineers and inspectors can look for the inevitable wear and tear in the concrete supports. But does this mean they will have to dig out the entire base of the condo, maybe even close to the bedrock? Do you think anyone would want to take part of digging that hole if it comes to that? Maybe some of you out there can contemplate what will happen with the remaining units in the months to come.


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To: TealsGuy17

The building was being prepared for its 40-year inspection. They could change this to be more frequent than 40 years.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbK87K_RV8w

Also there was a known defect with pool leakage. If this defect is related to the collapse, it will be treated more seriously in the future.

There was at least one report that the building made strange noises before the collapse. This should be investigated and may lead to a new triggers for inspection and evacuation.


41 posted on 06/27/2021 5:28:09 PM PDT by UnwashedPeasant (Trump is the last legally elected U.S. President.)
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To: TealsGuy17

You folks are jumping the gun...IMHO!!! We do not even have a clue as to why & how this fatal failure occurred. It could have been structural, it could have been a terrorist attack. The fires that are occurring after the collapse cannot be gas fed, because the Fire Department would have shutdown all gas feeds in the damaged building the moment they arrived at the fatal scene. The open borders are letting anyone come into the country unchecked and the Iran/Muslim terrorists might be hitting Israel right here in the USA!!! I think we should wait until our authorities come to a conclusion as to really happened at the doomed building. The Miami Fire Department & Local Law Enforcement, along with Federal government assistance will find out exactly what happened and how it came to pass. Time will reveal what actually happened!!! When that happens, actions can then be taken to correct the actions, be they structural or terrorist driven!!! May God bless & keep all the innocent victims and families impacted by this horrible and evil nightmare!!


42 posted on 06/27/2021 5:33:56 PM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX (Defeat both the Republican (e) & Democrat (e) political parties....Forever!!!)
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To: TealsGuy17

I’d cut my losses and get out of there.

Is it worth risking being buried alive or smashed like a pancake in the middle of the night?


43 posted on 06/27/2021 5:37:54 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith…..)
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To: moviefan8

You haven’t been paying attention. Opportunistic politicians of both parties will pass something that gives them “market rate” compensation.


44 posted on 06/27/2021 5:38:36 PM PDT by Codeflier (Covid-19 taught me: Two types of "conservatives", frightened safety seekers vs. freedom lovers)
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To: TealsGuy17

The Dems have been looking for something to pin on Gov. deSantis, in an effort to reduce his status.
I hope he is planning on how to respond to various accusations.


45 posted on 06/27/2021 5:41:00 PM PDT by lee martell
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To: PAR35

“ “ Mike, a political strategist, was on a business trip to Washington when Cassie called him at 1:30 in the morning, frantic that the building had shook. She was on the phone with him when she looked out the window and saw a sinkhole where the swimming pool had been. Then the line went dead.””


46 posted on 06/27/2021 5:42:20 PM PDT by chuck allen
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To: lee martell

Hi.

The attacks on Governor DeSantis are juvenile.

For example:. Governor DeSantis, will you take full responsibility for this horrible incident that happened in Your state?

Governor: well I was only 8 years old when this building was built, but sure. Next question.

5.56mm


47 posted on 06/27/2021 5:46:43 PM PDT by M Kehoe (Quid Pro Joe and the Ho need to go.)
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To: M Kehoe

Agreed. He still needs to prepare some kind of response that says he is aware of what happened, and is acting to prevent future similar events. It’s all anyone could do.
He should not press the issue that ‘he didn’t authorize’ the construction. A true statement, but then, the press would say he was ducking the issue. Not true, but they will say it anyway.


48 posted on 06/27/2021 5:57:15 PM PDT by lee martell
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To: PAR35

I’ve read reports that damaged concrete exposed rebar to salty conditions.


49 posted on 06/27/2021 6:11:48 PM PDT by enduserindy (I’m done explaining basic math and the definition of freedom. )
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To: MercyFlush

Yes this…^^^^…it will be inspected, studied, and then demolished…


50 posted on 06/27/2021 6:17:32 PM PDT by TnTnTn
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To: oldasrocks

It must have. Otherwise, the Vehicle Assembly Building ad Cape Canaveral would have sunk into the soil years ago.


51 posted on 06/27/2021 6:21:16 PM PDT by NCC-1701 ((You have your fear, which might become reality; and you have Godzilla, which IS reality.))
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To: TealsGuy17

The only solution will be to compile a list of the condo owners by race and ethnicity. Blacks and Hispanics owners are made whole, cut a check for the equity they had in the condo.

Whitey? He’s SOL....screwed. Afterall, it was probably his fault to begin with.

The Kamala/Obama solution that Dementia Joe will sign before his afternoon nap.


52 posted on 06/27/2021 6:28:01 PM PDT by vespa300
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To: ncfool

A lawsuit was filed against the condo association.


53 posted on 06/27/2021 6:34:38 PM PDT by gcparent (MAGA)
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To: gcparent

The condo association probably does not have any money.


54 posted on 06/27/2021 6:35:30 PM PDT by ncfool (Joe Biden USSA.. United Socialist state of aMeriKa...... 11.3.2020 - President in waiting Kama-la-la)
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To: oldasrocks

Freepers are woefully uninformed about south Florida rock

Coconut grove...just south is downtown Miami has rock outcropping

Limestone

It varies in Dade county how deep it is

Miami Limestone (Pleistocene) at surface, covers 92 % of this area
The Miami Limestone (formerly the Miami Oolite), named by Sanford (1909), occurs at or near the surface in southeastern peninsular Florida from Palm Beach County to Dade and Monroe Counties. It forms the Atlantic Coastal Ridge and extends beneath the Everglades where it is commonly covered by thin organic and freshwater sediments. The Miami Limestone occurs on the mainland and in the southern Florida Keys from Big Pine Key to the Marquesas Keys. From Big Pine Key to the mainland, the Miami Limestone is replaced by the Key Largo Limestone. To the north, in Palm Beach County, the Miami Limestone grades laterally northward into the Anastasia Formation. The Miami Limestone consists of two facies, an oolitic facies and a bryozoan facies (Hoffmeister et al. [1967]). The oolitic facies consists of white to orangish gray, poorly to moderately indurated, sandy, oolitic limestone (grainstone) with scattered concentrations of fossils. The bryozoan facies consists of white to orangish gray, poorly to well indurated, sandy, fossiliferous limestone (grainstone and packstone). Beds of quartz sand are also present as unindurated sediments and indurated limey sandstones. Fossils present include mollusks, bryozoans, and corals. Molds and casts of fossils are common. The highly porous and permeable Miami Limestone forms much of the Biscayne Aquifer of the surficial aquifer system.

On average you hit limestone in 3-4 feet after sandy soil


55 posted on 06/27/2021 6:39:36 PM PDT by wardaddy (Feel my warmth)
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To: outpostinmass2

Wow

Someone informed

I’d hug u if I could


56 posted on 06/27/2021 6:40:15 PM PDT by wardaddy (Feel my warmth)
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To: TealsGuy17

By the time the dust settles (pun not intentional) with all the legal actions that will arise from this. The majority of the older owners will have passed on and their heirs will get bupkis.


57 posted on 06/27/2021 6:43:21 PM PDT by outofsalt (If history teaches us anything, it's that history rarely teaches anything.)
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To: TealsGuy17
I just heard that a University of Connecticut baseball player and his family was in one of the condos (that is still standing.) His sister was about 5 feet from where the building collapsed.
58 posted on 06/27/2021 6:50:15 PM PDT by Deplorable American1776 (I'm the one trying to save American Democracy...Donald Trump 6/5/21 at the NCGOP convention)
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To: TealsGuy17

By the time the investigations are over and the numerous lawsuits are settled how many of the owners will still be alive to care?


59 posted on 06/27/2021 7:06:11 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives our fortunes and our sacred honor." )
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To: enduserindy

That makes more sense than some of the theories.


60 posted on 06/27/2021 7:14:53 PM PDT by PAR35
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