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To: Neidermeyer

Neidermeyer wrote: “Please watch the videos and don’t stop fighting against this genocide.”

Please get your facts straight. None of the animals died:

This is typical anti-vaxxer propaganda which has been rebutted multiple times. Don’t you people ever stop to verify something? Just because it sounds good it’s true:

Some facts:

CLAIM: The Pfizer and Moderna vaccines are mRNAs vaccines that skipped animal trials because using mRNA vaccines on animals triggers dangerous inflammation.

AP’S ASSESSMENT: False. Pfizer and Moderna did not skip animal trials when testing their COVID-19 vaccines.

THE FACTS: As the race to authorize the use of COVID-19 vaccines continues, posts online are spreading misinformation about vaccine trials.

Recent posts are criticizing Pfizer and Moderna, who both announced that their vaccines were more than 90 percent effective at preventing COVID-19. One tweet with more than 4,000 likes suggests that the two companies did not conduct animal trials when testing their vaccines because testing mRNA vaccines on animals could cause dangerous side effects.
University of Pennsylvania professor of medicine Dr. Drew Weissman, who has been studying mRNA and mRNA vaccines for decades, said they do not cause dangerous inflammation to animals. Along with the vaccines for Pfizer and Moderna both passing animal trials, they also passed clinical trials on humans where they were tested on more than 70,000 people.

https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-afs:Content:9792931264

And this:

Fact check: A 2012 study did not use mRNA vaccines or result in animals dying from disease

A video which uses a research paper to argue that mRNA vaccines will make people fatally weakened to other diseases makes untrue claims about the study, according to the paper’s lead author.

Reuters Fact Check. REUTERS
The video, which has been viewed over 140,000 times on Facebook, carries the headline: “Why people may start dying a few months after the Gates vaccination”.

It opens with a screenshot of the abstract of a 2012 paper entitled ‘Immunization with SARS Coronavirus Vaccines Leads to Pulmonary Immunopathology on Challenge with the SARS Virus’. That paper is visible online here and here. The study researched vaccinated mice that were later exposed to a live SARS virus.

The speaker in the video says: “What happened in this study is that the animal models, after being challenged, got very sick and that some of them died. So that the last line of the abstract says: ‘Caution in proceeding to application of a SARS-CoV vaccine in humans is indicated.’” (Timestamp 1.06)

The recommendation for caution is indeed the final line of the study’s conclusion, as published on the above link, but the lead author of the study, Prof Chien-Te (Kent) Tseng (here), told Reuters by email that the animals in the study did not die.

The speaker in the video goes on to suggest throughout the video that the findings of the study are applicable to RNA vaccines (here Timestamps 0.18, 1.49, 2.43).

However, Tseng, said the vaccines they had studied in the 2012 paper and the mRNA technology used in the COVID-19 vaccines are “very different vaccine platforms.”

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-mice/fact-check-a-2012-study-did-not-use-mrna-vaccines-or-result-in-animals-dying-from-disease-idUSKBN2A22UW

And This:
Covid-19 vaccine did not kill every animal it was tested on
All animals used in Covid-19 vaccine trials died months later from immune disorders, sepsis and/or cardiac failure.

OUR VERDICT
There is no evidence for this.. The claim is based on a 2012 study looking at different vaccines. The animals, in this case mice, were euthanized as is standard procedure in this sort of trial. They did not die “months later” as claimed.

https://fullfact.org/online/covid-vaccine-animal-testing/


10 posted on 06/20/2021 7:17:03 AM PDT by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: DugwayDuke

AP, Reuters and some fact check website?

Might as well cite NYT and CNN while you’re at it.


12 posted on 06/20/2021 7:20:51 AM PDT by Pollard
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To: DugwayDuke

https://fullfact.org/about/funding/

fakebook and google LOL


15 posted on 06/20/2021 7:27:01 AM PDT by Pollard
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To: DugwayDuke

Nice presentation. I won’t bet my life on an AP Fact Check.


17 posted on 06/20/2021 7:28:48 AM PDT by Savage Rider
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To: DugwayDuke; Neidermeyer
Neidermeyer wrote: “Please watch the videos and don’t stop fighting against this genocide.”

DugwayDuke: Please get your facts straight. None of the animals died:

This is typical anti-vaxxer propaganda which has been rebutted multiple times. Don’t you people ever stop to verify something? Just because it sounds good it’s true:

ransomnote: 'Reuters Fact Check' and 'AP Fact Check' are treasonous arms of the MSM used to enforce the false narrative. They are just two MSM 'tools' used to advance coup efforts re impeachments and framing of President Trump for crimes he didn't commit.

So now AP, Reuters and Chinese researchers are your 'go-to' sources? Patriots come to FR to escape the lying MSM and you're going to chastize them for escaping the fold?

I'll paste a quote from CHristian Elliot's April 5 article, 18 Reasons I Won't Be Getting a Covid Vaccine  to once again show that animals sickened and died from mRNA  'vaccine attempts.

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After 2000, scientists made many attempts to create coronavirus vaccines.

For the past 20 years, all ended in failure because the animals in the clinical trials got very sick and many died, just like the children in the 1960's.

For the past 20 years, all ended in failure because the animals in the clinical trials got very sick and many died, just like the children in the 1960's.

You can read a summary of this history/science here.  

Or if you want to read the individual studies you can check out these links: 

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You are blindly pushing MSM 'fact checkers' on FReepers. No sale.

I have asked other trolls to provide proof that the mRNA EVER had successful trials on animals and all I hear is crickets.

Your turn. Provide evidence of successful mRNA trials or concede that there are none. "Sacrificing" animals (killing to examine their tissues for disease) only counts as success if they were not found diseased. They never 'fixed' the problems. I now believe they were satisfied with the pathogenic nature of these fake 'vaccines'.

No successful animal or people trials exist prior to rolling out mRNA technology on the world. I used to say the animal trials failed but I now consider those previous trial essentially gain-of-function tests on biowarfare agents outsourced to the US and paid for, yet again, with US tax dollars in US facilities.

19 posted on 06/20/2021 7:54:52 AM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: DugwayDuke

I want to believe these refutations, but the AP and Reuters have completely squandered their credibility.

Might as well have some three-year-old at Chuckie Cheese refute something. Same credibility level.


79 posted on 06/20/2021 5:04:32 PM PDT by Lazamataz (I feel like it is 1937 Germany, and my last name is Feinberg.)
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