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The First Two B-21 Bombers Are Nearly Complete—and the Air Force Already Wants More of 'Em
Popular Mechanics via Yahoo ^ | June 10th, 2021 | Kyle Mizokami

Posted on 06/10/2021 1:47:51 PM PDT by Mariner

The U.S. Air Force's (USAF) bomber program, designed to field a replacement for the B-1 Lancer and B-2 Spirit by the late 2020s, is on track. That's a rarity in the world of military hardware procurement. Still, Congress is calling on the service to accelerate the program; USAF isn't budging.

"Once we get through design and get the first ones delivered, we can adjust production rates and maybe affect them that way, but we have to get through the engineering with solid discipline," Air Force acting acquisition executive Darlene Costello said during a House Armed Services panel on June 8.

One major reason the Air Force doesn't want to speed up the B-21 program is that, while the bombers are almost mechanically complete, the service has not yet solidified the overall design for the larger fleet. The service is concerned that speeding things up could introduce concurrency issues.

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While I generally don't like the term, a fleet of these will be a game changer.

Intercontinental stealth, lighter than any in the current fleet (60,000 lb payload, all internal) with the sophisticated sensors and electronics of the F-35. Probably more so.

Able to launch hypersonics and control drones.

While not invisible, you have to get eyes on it to shoot at it with cannon.

1 posted on 06/10/2021 1:47:51 PM PDT by Mariner
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To: Mariner

B1, B2, ... B21.

What happened to B3 through B20?

Or did they just meld B2 and B1 to get B21? Shouldn’t it be the BB21 to properly do the meld?


2 posted on 06/10/2021 1:50:30 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom ("Pour les vaincre il faut de l'audace, encore de l'audace, toujours de l'audace")
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To: Mariner

Sweet. Looking forward to catching first glimpse of one.


3 posted on 06/10/2021 1:50:35 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire. Or both.)
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Depends on what it looks like on infrared.

This is a B-2 on infrared. If a VVLA on the ground can find the hole in the air a stealth aircraft looks like (and they can) and it vectors a fighter with look-down-shoot-down IRST (standard issue on many non-US fighters) close enough, this is what they see, and this can be done from further away than you can see it with the naked eye.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3c6pa_vPE_k


4 posted on 06/10/2021 1:51:37 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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"While not invisible, you have to get eyes on it to shoot at it with cannon."

What about surfaced to air guided missles?

5 posted on 06/10/2021 1:52:34 PM PDT by A Navy Vet (USA Birth Certificate - 1787. Death Certificate - 2021 under Biteme.)
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To: Mariner

The problem is the enemies are behind the wire.


6 posted on 06/10/2021 1:53:03 PM PDT by Levy78
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

The logic they used was that this will become ‘the US bomber for the 21st century’ hence B-21. :rolleyes:


7 posted on 06/10/2021 1:53:19 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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Then, by the time it is done, they’ll have to rename it the B22.


8 posted on 06/10/2021 1:54:36 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom ("Pour les vaincre il faut de l'audace, encore de l'audace, toujours de l'audace")
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To: A Navy Vet

Strategic stealth isn’t a thing any more (’nobody can see me’) but tactical stealth still is (’good luck getting a missile lock’) and it’s why it’s still worth doing.

Something like this would be localized to vector fighters on, but the current state of the art is not such that radar guided SAMs would be able to get a lock unless some highly unlikely circumstances happen. However, if fighters with IRST and IR missiles show up, it is likely that they can get a lock and fire on it - the question is at what range, and IRST/seekerheads get better and better every year.


9 posted on 06/10/2021 1:56:20 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

What happened to B3 through B20


None of those are valid Bingo numbers.


10 posted on 06/10/2021 1:56:56 PM PDT by cuban leaf (We killed our economy and damaged our culture. In 2021 we will pine for the salad days of 2020.)
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“What about surfaced to air guided missles? “

They use either HF radar or IR for targeting.

They can get close...then fly away.


11 posted on 06/10/2021 1:57:04 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: BenLurkin

I like the original better, although the new model is way more technologically advanced.

12 posted on 06/10/2021 1:58:12 PM PDT by CodeJockey (Dum Spiro, Pugno)
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Air to air is another matter - and if they’re controlling drones, even on spread spectrum radar, they’re going to be broadcasting/radiating. Which means a modern HARM type will do for it quite nicely.


13 posted on 06/10/2021 1:58:18 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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Sophisticated stealth does not negate the ability to use classic tactics like low approaches and surprise.


14 posted on 06/10/2021 1:59:52 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Won’t be long and they will get around to the B-34.


15 posted on 06/10/2021 2:00:25 PM PDT by Texas resident (Silver alert: There is a guy running around DC claiming he is the President.)
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To: cuban leaf

B4 was already deployed...


16 posted on 06/10/2021 2:00:31 PM PDT by MIA_eccl1212 (When the bad guys have leverage they use it)
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To: Spktyr

AI limits control signals to milliseconds of instruction.


17 posted on 06/10/2021 2:02:28 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: CodeJockey

Was at a local tire place about 20 years ago when a B-2 came banking over us at low altitude. It was beautiful.


18 posted on 06/10/2021 2:03:55 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire. Or both.)
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To: MIA_eccl1212

B4 was already deployed...


BINGO!


19 posted on 06/10/2021 2:05:08 PM PDT by cuban leaf (We killed our economy and damaged our culture. In 2021 we will pine for the salad days of 2020.)
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To: Levy78

That’s no doubt. The Biden cabal probably have given the chi-coms the plans already.


20 posted on 06/10/2021 2:06:50 PM PDT by VTenigma (The Democrat party is the party of the mathematically challenged )
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