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Why the government cannot answer the UFO question
American Thinker ^ | 06/09/2021 | Robert Arvay

Posted on 06/09/2021 7:15:40 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

The anticipated release of a government report about UFOs (or UAPs) later this month has created a lot of public discussion about what might be included in that report, and perhaps more importantly, what might be excluded. But in the end, the government does not know, nor can it, what the UAPs really are, or are not, because they are a paradox.

Briefly stated, a paradox occurs when two statements of supposed facts are perceived to contradict each other. The UAP paradox is that the UAPs behave as if they wished to avoid detection, yet they get detected anyway. Why is that a paradox? Because, any technology that is capable of the reported flight characteristics of the UAPs, capabilities that exceed anything earthly we know about, and indeed, can seem to violate the known laws of physics, must surely be capable of stealth technology vastly exceeding ours — and ours is fairly good, and getting better, despite having been first developed in its present form only in recent decades.

In short, if the UAPs are the product of advanced technology, as they seem to be, then either they wish to hide or not. If they wish to hide, we should never, ever, be able to detect them. If they do not wish to hide, we should see them frequently, under conditions of irrefutable evidence. The paradox is that they do neither. They hide, and then they don't hide. What could be the explanation for that?

I consider the hypothesis of alien spacecraft in our skies plausible but lacking sufficient evidence to persuade an honest skeptic. Indeed, I consider it even less plausible that UAPs are the product of earthly technology, because that also presents a paradox.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Society; UFO's; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: government; ufo
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To: Lazamataz
These objects have also been observed by soldiers USGI Issue Mark 1 Eyeballs.


81 posted on 06/09/2021 11:26:32 AM PDT by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic...)
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To: SeekAndFind
Then I'd have to say , for myself that I'd believe they do exist.

I base that on a simple premise: Never believe anything until it's officially been denied.

But that would contradict that premise, wouldn't it? I mean if the government says they exist I guess that premise goes out the window.

I dunno.

That dude with the funny hair on that tv show can straighten it all out. Then I'd believe for sure! :-)

82 posted on 06/09/2021 11:29:00 AM PDT by jmacusa (America. Founded by geniuses . Now governed by idiots.)
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To: z3n

The CIA’s involvement in the development of the SR-71 had much more to do with the sourcing of the raw materials. Titanium wasn’t readily available to the US at the time and that was problematic because the biggest producer of Titanium was....the Soviet Union.

So, the CIA created a number of incredibly well-hidden front companies that it used to buy the Titanium from the Soviets that Lockheed’s Skunk Works division needed to build the aircraft (an incredible story that surprisingly hasn’t been made into a movie...yet.) That certainly wasn’t an insignificant contribution, to say the least. But, the primary agency on the project was still the US Air Force.

I agree that compartmentalization is a thing. I just don’t think it’s a thing that could explain how technology that advanced aeronautical engineering generations has been hidden away for decades in absolute secret.

The compartmentalization theory taken to its logical conclusion would mean: The Navy can’t get their electromagnet catapult to reliably work and at the very same time, there’s another group at DoD that has created tech that would render the catapult obsolete? It just doesn’t sound plausible.


83 posted on 06/09/2021 11:44:40 AM PDT by ScubaDiver (Reddit refugee.)
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To: Starboard

“Could be that very sophisticated technology has been in development for a long time,”

So long ago that we find a sighting in the Old Testament. Ezekiel 10-9 It was called a Wheelwork, and moved in any direction without veering as they moved. Ezekiel called them Angels.


84 posted on 06/09/2021 11:56:59 AM PDT by WVNan (neve)
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To: fatman6502002
They are the product of relatively recent DARPA breakthroughs in room temp super-conductivity, power generation and miniaturization.

Except, of course, the ones that were reported prior to the 1900.

85 posted on 06/09/2021 12:18:04 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: Madam Theophilus

The radar image projection capability is used broadly in the Middle East, particularly during invasive raids against nuc sites under construction, etc. It doesn’t explain sightings that involve multiple modalities (i.e. radar, FLIR, visual).


86 posted on 06/09/2021 12:30:26 PM PDT by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc O'Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: GingisK

There is no video of those and who knows what people whom had never seen a flying machines of any kind, except maybe a tethered hot air baloon, were actually describing.
What you’ve seen in those cockpit video’s is from earth, they’re not ET, I know many people want them to be ET but as I said earlier, Occam’s Razor is at play here. Of course if it happens that they are ET well then the great question will finally be answered.
But since there’s not one shred of evidence there are any ET’s, until there is or until we know for certain what the objects are, I’ll continue to believe they have an earthly origin.


87 posted on 06/09/2021 3:20:48 PM PDT by fatman6502002 ((The Team The Team The Team - Bo Schembechler circa 1969))
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To: ScubaDiver

They’re not the same people. If they had been then the Chinese and Russians would have known all about this tech because the regular DoD/NatSec/FedGov is rife with adversary penetrations, like most of our federal government institutions. Fire all of the progressive socialist democrats in the fed DoD/NatSec/FedGov bureauracracy and you’ll get rid of 99% of the spies that are working for our enemies and adversaries. Another clue to whom they are, look closely at everyone in the DoD/NatSec/FedGov area who was hired while obama was pres, you’ll get a lot of spies out of that group of leftist scum too.


88 posted on 06/09/2021 3:29:59 PM PDT by fatman6502002 ((The Team The Team The Team - Bo Schembechler circa 1969))
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To: fatman6502002
What you’ve seen in those cockpit video’s is from earth, they’re not ET.

Unless you have a hot line to God, you couldn't possibly know that for sure. I've studied this material for a very long time. There are credible witnesses who have had "close encounters". The gun camera video may not be ET; however, there are objects that are best assumed to be ET.

89 posted on 06/09/2021 6:04:51 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: GingisK

Why would one believe in something like ET when as of yet there is not one shred of evidence that ET’s exist. I know why, because you want it to be true. Try critically thinking about this subject and then you’ll understand where I’m coming from.


90 posted on 06/10/2021 2:42:12 AM PDT by fatman6502002 ((The Team The Team The Team - Bo Schembechler circa 1969))
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To: READINABLUESTATE

An interesting counter twist would have been a countering being that shows up and says to the “emissary”...what you have been trying to breed for war we have been goading towards peace....now go to your ships’ monitors and eye your home planets....


91 posted on 06/10/2021 3:15:37 AM PDT by mdmathis6
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To: ScubaDiver
A-12 ARCHANGEL CIA PROJECT OXCART
92 posted on 06/10/2021 3:19:21 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco
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To: fatman6502002; GingisK

I think there is some truth to your statement as long you understand that there is danger when one holds an opposite view...to be so utterly convinced that aliens aren’t true simply because one doesn’t wish it to be so, that one can miss the obvious shreds of evidence that they do exist.

There’s always a bit of fire somewhere that causes the smoke that blurs one’s vision and causes a loss in ones sense of direction. A pre-bias that colors ones objectivity is difficult to manage because such pre-biases are often encumbered by emotion and pride...one doesn’t want to get caught knowing absolutely nothing...right? One doesn’t want others to know that we all know, deep inside, that we are really naked and “not like the gods”?


93 posted on 06/10/2021 3:29:44 AM PDT by mdmathis6
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To: Hot Tabasco

If they could have built the A-12 in total secrecy then, there is no reason not to believe what we are seeing today are equally secret projects in advanced aeronautics...


94 posted on 06/10/2021 3:47:07 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (I just sold my homing pigeon on Ebay for the 19th time......)
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To: mdmathis6

That’s wrong. I am totally agnostic towards the question of whether there are ET’s or not. I want to see some actual evidence that they exist, that’s all, just some kind of evidence. Also, my stance is not that ET’s don’t exist, it’s simply that we have no evidence for their existence. That’s called critical thinking, you should try it once in awhile.


95 posted on 06/10/2021 4:16:50 AM PDT by fatman6502002 ((The Team The Team The Team - Bo Schembechler circa 1969))
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To: fatman6502002

By insinuating insult(you “should try critical thinking”) you betray you own lack of objectivity by accusing me of the sin of “nakedness” of not being a “critical thinker” or of not “being like the gods” such as yourself.

It is hard for humans to get away from our base sin of pride and arrogance! “It is hard for thee to kick against the goads”

For the record, I have no fixed opinion as to what UFO’s are or what they are not...for those who seem to have encountered them or even claim some sort of contact or abduction experience the descriptions appear to have been negative in terms of their emotional and spiritual impacts on such persons. That is looking at the trends that I have perceived after having read of such stories.

Looking at the trends of human history, claims that such beings have been here to monitor us and to “guide us along” are rather dubious given the historic cycles of war and destruction and the ever new ways being invented that can cause devastating loss of life and even total extinction of life on our planet.

So I am dubious, too but from a more perpedicular point of view.


96 posted on 06/10/2021 5:12:30 AM PDT by mdmathis6
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To: mdmathis6

Forget it. Conversing with you is a waste of my extremely valuable time. You simply spout BS and seem incapable of learning anything. You’re arguments parallel exactly with how progressive democrats argue. I suspect you’re just another one of the many leftist plants that come on here and spout nonsense. Goodbye.


97 posted on 06/10/2021 5:30:39 AM PDT by fatman6502002 ((The Team The Team The Team - Bo Schembechler circa 1969))
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To: fatman6502002

Your “extremely valuable time”... yup you sound like a Democrat plant yourself...Insulting, too! And easily irritated and angry...! If you “be like the gods”...then I would want no part of them!
So we’ll stand apart indeed!


98 posted on 06/10/2021 6:36:37 AM PDT by mdmathis6
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To: mdmathis6

Obviously you cannot detect my sarcasm.


99 posted on 06/10/2021 6:45:43 AM PDT by fatman6502002 ((The Team The Team The Team - Bo Schembechler circa 1969))
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To: fatman6502002
...there is not one shred of evidence that ET’s exist...

Here you and I disagree. There is such evidence.

100 posted on 06/10/2021 7:33:01 AM PDT by GingisK
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