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To: bagster

It’s not over 5K. It’s 4,436. I just ran a VAERS query myself.

71+% of all VAERS records with death as an outcome are for age 65 and over. Not that we’ll ever know short of autopsies being done on every last person who died SOMETIME after receiving the vaccine..but it’s pretty likely a good chunk of those people died from something unrelated to the vaccine that they were probably dealing with already.

Regardless, my original point still stands..you are literally 300X+ more (accounting for > 2K and < 5K current VAERS records with reported death) likely to die if you contract COVID than if you get the vaccine.


54 posted on 06/06/2021 2:05:37 PM PDT by jstolzen
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56 posted on 06/06/2021 2:10:06 PM PDT by musicman (The future is just a collection of successive nows.)
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To: jstolzen
Not that we’ll ever know short of autopsies being done on every last person who died SOMETIME after receiving the vaccine..

Top Kek, troll.

No similar caution about misusing PCR to diagnose people with COOF (despite the Nobel-Prize-winning inventor of PCR saying it shouldn't be used for diagnosis in the first place)

and using an absurdly inflated number of cycles of 44 to diagnose people with coof while Trump was President

and assigning cause of death to BE Covid, even down to motorcycle crashes by people who had tested positive for it.

Keep right on trolling.

68 posted on 06/06/2021 2:41:54 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: jstolzen

“you are literally 300X+ more (accounting for > 2K and < 5K current VAERS records with reported death) likely to die if you contract COVID than if you get the vaccine.”

I’m assuming you’re comparing the total number of reported Covid-related deaths over the past 18 months with the number of vaccine-related deaths over a much shorter period of time? I think a better apples-to-apples comparison would have to account for more than just that. It certainly would have to account for the remaining unknowns about the available vaccines, among other things.

For me, the data on the long-term effects of the vaccines are just not there yet, and there are plausible mechanisms for them to cause long terms problems. Considering how low the odds are that I’ll get seriously ill from Covid over the next few months, I think a wait-and-see attitude is a rational one.


69 posted on 06/06/2021 2:42:38 PM PDT by rightwingcrazy (;-,)
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To: jstolzen; bagster
It's over 5,000. VAERS has made it hard to get a clean count -there are exceptions which leave out classifications sometimes. For example, I often find that 'date  unknown' or other Covid-19 vaccination records with a piece of information missing does not get collected when I make an export.

COVID Vaccine Data (openvaers.com)


99 posted on 06/06/2021 8:06:00 PM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: jstolzen; ransomnote; Jane Long; grey_whiskers; Cathi
Regardless, my original point still stands..you are literally 300X+ more (accounting for > 2K and < 5K current VAERS records with reported death) likely to die if you contract COVID than if you get the vaccine.

Even if you're right, so?

We should kill people to save people?

#SophiesChoice


104 posted on 06/06/2021 11:06:32 PM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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