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To: gas_dr; All
never met a crazy Conspiracy theory they didn’t like

This is a legitimate charge, however it does not apply in this case. Many of us warned about these vaccinations and people responsible for the vaccinations since day 1. We were called conspiracy theorists then, but have since been vindicated by all but you. Here are some of our vindicated “conspiracies” …

1. Bill Gates is a Satan worshipping Malthusian
2. Fauci is colluding with China
3. Vaccines are developed using aborted fetal cells
4. The US Government is falsifying COVID-19 Statistics
5. The US Government is denying life saving therapeutics to citizens
6. The vaccines are not properly tested
7. Big Tech is colluding with the US Government to censor the above information
(The list goes on)
282 posted on 06/04/2021 2:45:31 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

In response to your vindication claims:

1. Not sure, but I will take your word for it.
2. Agree, and Fauci is an idiot of the first order who should be fired
3. Disagree, they were tested on a cell line from an abortion in the mid 1970’s but not developed using actual aborted fetus cells (I will concede they were tested on a cultured set of cells hundred of generations away from an aborted child). I agree this is a very grey area.
4. Very broad statement. The US government is falsifying how? We do know there were 500,000 excess deaths last year, it is hard to explain that except by pandemic. I am willing to listen to contrarian view
5. Disagree. I assume you are referring to Ivermectin and HCQ, these are NOT live saving drugs. While I think there is some limited utility, I think this is clearly not a conclusion borne by data. However, I will agree with you that they have done a piss poor job advocating the use of Monoclonal antibodies in early and moderate disease (Bamlanivimab and Regeneron). I think if we were serious, any CoVID dx with symptoms would receive one infusion of this just as PDJT did.
6. Disagree. The vaccines were properly vetted and tested in Three clinical phase trials. These vaccine platforms have been under testing since SARS (CoVi-1) but that was too aggressive ofd a disease and fell apart quickly. I understand some are uncomfortable with EUA and fast tracking, but to say they are not properly tested in my opinion is incorrect
7. Big Tech — I do not accept some of the premises in 1 - 6 so I cannot really comment on 7. However, I do think big tech is an enormous problem for conservative causes, and should be remedied

I appreciate your honest candid approach. I find that I dont disagree in entirety with you and you raise several valid points that must be considered in order to arrive at the truth.

Thank you for your candor. And not knowing you were a soldier as you stated in a previous post, thank you for your service.


293 posted on 06/04/2021 3:15:49 PM PDT by gas_dr (Conditions of Socratic debate: Intelligence, Candor, and Good Will. )
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