If you like your current Firefox, don't download version 89.0 (redesigns browser appearance and tosses out all your settings)

Mozilla ^ | June 1, 2021 | Mozilla

[Bloody Sam Roberts]

Anyone on this ping list using Brave browser for Linux Mint? My software manager does not show it as downloadable.

[Bob434]

Thanks for mentioning ign iridium, I’m looking for good ff alternative for both Linux and windows 7

[Repeal The 17th]

I froze mine and stopped updating it at V 55.0.3
It is customized just the way I want it.

[Mr Rogers]

I reluctantly tried Brave as a replacement. After a little getting used to it...I LOVE it! Would never go back!

[dayglored]

Firefox redesign update ... PING!

You can find all the Windows Ping list threads with FR search: just search on keyword "windowspinglist".

Thanks to CedarDave and ShadowAce for the pings!

[ExTexasRedhead]

How do I block the update?

[dayglored]

For what it's worth, the changes I saw when I updated to 89 were pretty minimal. My settings got applied a little differently in the new design, but they were still all there. I wouldn't call it disruptive enough to avoid.

Other than the tabs and hamburger menu, the only other change I saw was in GreasMonkey for FreeRepublic, the editing buttons look a little different. No big deal.

[newfreep]

I changed to Brave a few weeks ago - the best I’ve used and darn fast, too. Excellent on memory usage, too.

btw, its built-in ad blocker is better than any extension I’ve tried.

[lastchance]

Thanks for the warning. I somehow managed to download the new version and I hated it the whole 10 minutes it was on my computer. I tried to download the previous version but got confused (as happens too often these days). I ended up doing a system restore. I changed my settings too. Should it happen again, how does one re-install the older version?

[Hot Tabasco]

I have Firefox and for the past month or so it runs pathetically slow no matter what I do to try and speed it up........

Tried everything the internet suggested with the exception of removing it from my computer and reloading it.......

[daniel1212]

"Simplified browser chrome and toolbar:"

No, no , no. If you want a browser that presumes you are a clone that does not care much about customization and expanded capabilities, and is greatly inferior to firefoz ESR 59 (ESR) in that regard, then this trajectory is for them.

I just stopped one of installations of Firefox Quantum Portable (which I use so that I can continued to use Firefox ESR) which I have enabled multiple tab rows on (thank God), and searching for reviews, i came across this so far:

weavejester 9 hours ago [–] My initial reaction to the beta version was that the UI was much worse, but I decided to give it a chance and spend a few weeks trying to get used to it. Now that I've had time to play with it, I'm even more convinced my initial reaction was correct. But I've also had time to reflect on why, and in my view there are two problems with this new design. Removing visual separators from the tabs makes them much harder to distinguish - the only difference between one tab and the next is a larger horizontal space. In prose, when we want to separate sentences, we don't just use longer spaces; we use other visual indicators like capital letters and full stops (periods). Paragraphs are separated by vertical space, which is visually distinct from a horizontal one. The second problem is that the tab you're not supposed to click on (the active tab) looks like a button, while the tabs you are meant to click on (the inactive tabs) are presented as text. This is opposite to normal UX conventions. There are some subjective improvements to the look and feel of this UX change, but overall I'm confused as to why the Firefox UX team would go against established conventions to produce something that's visually more difficult to use and less intuitive than they had before. Fortunately userChrome.css is still usable if you set an about:config option (toolkit.legacyUserProfileCustomizations.stylesheets), so I can see about fixing the problem myself, but I'm concerned that Firefox's march toward reduced configurability will eventually remove this option. Overall, my concerns on Firefox are the same as most; in the pursuit of market share, they're moving further and further away from their roots by removing customisation options. Remember when you could change Firefox's theme without using hidden configuration options? I wrote this a month ago re. Edge as i had found it, but for what it is worth: it seems that mainly due to security and speed aspects, then unlike legacy Firefox ESR 59.9 with Tab Mix Plus and a few other extensions. which enabled more key customization than the whole of Edge, which the below critique is aimed at, but much applies to browsers of that engine of which Vivaldi is part of but is the best of the bunch. : You cannot make it show multiple tab rows (you can with Firefox Quantum but it takes one [1]of the hacks and you can also obtain in Vivaldi). And unless the latter is a portable version, it cannot run concurrently with FF ESR) You cannot adjust max or min tab width. And the more you open the thinner they get, and all look the same. (except the active tab has an close You cannot close a non-active tab by just placing your cursor on it the top right to get a X to click on (so unless you activate it, you need to R. click on it and hit close tab). You cannot enable different colored tabs as with the legacy Colorful Tabs extension (NOT the one in Quantum). You cannot choose to open links in other installed browsers via right click. You cannot toggle btwn the most recently accessed tabs using the Ctrl+Tab switch (and its Alt+Tab alternative messes up switching btwn applications). Edge has a very poor spell checker and the dictionary is hard to find in the drive even if you could edit it (as you can with that of Firefox). [But the LanguageTool extension is a vast improvement. For Vivaldi and Chrome also.] You cannot create more than one profile (as far as i know). I know no extension that saves your text box posts such as this, like the Lazarus legacy FF extension did/does. [But the Typio Form Recovery may be good if not spying.] MS does not make it easy to set another browser as the default one for all html documents and links (details too long for here). There is no option to keep the Find/Search bar open across tabs (handy in searches), meaning you need to do the search new for every tab. There is no option via right click on a tab to choose “Copy link.” Since MS writes the software for Windows, than it ought to be able to create a real "utility truck" browser - and which I am sure would become a classic for "power users" - rather than just another minimalist Chrome clone. However, although using the same engine, Vivaldi has more options so that some of the above criticisms do not apply to it: https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50835261511_0edaca21c2_c.jpg Footnotes [1]https://github.com/Izheil/Quantum-Nox-Firefox-Dark-Full-Theme/tree/master/Multirow and other functions

[SuperLuminal]

Dumped Firefox 17-months ago and never looked back...

[daniel1212]

"Now I have been using Firefox only for the reason that I can add NoScript to it as and add on."

At least with Firefox then if you open a page and hit the F12 key and then Network tab and then F5 then you can see all the network requests being made. Like over 150 in the first minute on Gateway Pundit.

[SeeSharp]

How do I block the update?

Go to the Tools menu and select Options. Choose General and scroll down to Firefox Updates. Select the option to "Check for updates but let you choose to install them".

[Openurmind]

Absolutely my privilege, I will give you heads up if I run into monkey business.:)

[disclaimer]

Mozilla Firefox went woke during the Plandemic of 2020, and vowed to track conservative users and advertising for boycott purposes.

Boycott Firefox.

[Openurmind]

Thank you Sir, I was not aware of that. Will have to check it out! :)

[skepsel]

Yes, no problems with importing bookmarks.

I did have to re-enter all my passwords for password protected sites.

[skepsel]

Thanks for the tip.

[ducttape45]

Haven’t used Firefox in years after what they did to Eich. Using Palemoon version 28.9.3.