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Why You Should Wait Out the Wild Housing Market
The Atlantic ^ | MAY 28, 2021 | Derek Thompson

Posted on 05/30/2021 3:36:50 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo

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To: CodeToad

3?4 OSB going for $66 a sheet, that was 2 weeks ago.


61 posted on 05/30/2021 6:37:22 AM PDT by eastforker (All in, I'm all Trump,what you got!)
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To: Mr. Mojo

The housing market is a fickle bi+ch. I bought my place in ‘03 for $142k. By 2007 it was assessed for about $190k. Then the crash, in 2010 it assessed for about $125k. Now similar houses near me are selling in a day or less for $400k or more.


62 posted on 05/30/2021 6:37:26 AM PDT by Newtoidaho (All I ask of living is to have no chains on me.)
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To: eastforker

I bought a few 4’x4’ B/C plywood sheets. They cost $48 a piece. That’s crap wood for high dollar.


63 posted on 05/30/2021 6:39:08 AM PDT by CodeToad (Arm up! They Have!)
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To: Mr. Mojo

True. Sold this year and had 7 offers, two of which waived inspections. We elected a conventional offer based on the totality of each offer (not just $ and time but people and likelihood each would be happy in the place ... but it was after all one of the top offers too.


64 posted on 05/30/2021 6:41:41 AM PDT by No.6
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt
"Like all bubbles, ..this one will burst, maybe a little bit longer due to inflation/ stagflation."

Not at all sure this happens on the Left Coast (minus Portland), without an unwinding of the commercial real estate mortgate market which I have written about here.

Do you have any idea of what California's mass depopulation would be like if there weren't 2 chinamen taking his place? China, like every other evil in the world, is behind this bidding war in the most premium neighborhoods in Kali.

China, surprisingly, is not hard to leave (albeit we will see literally hundreds of forced 'repatriations' for the rest of this decade until war breaks open). Forcing mainland law on HK was the tipping point.

65 posted on 05/30/2021 6:43:22 AM PDT by StAnDeliver (Eric Coomer of Dominion Voting Systems Is The Blue Dress)
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To: Mr. Mojo

May I suggest you run a M* comparison of REITS, Commodity EFS vs Consumer discretionary ETF & Consumer staples over all time intervals 1m to 15 years. I did that exercise last week and it solidified my choices.
Start at a quote, select see full chart.
In the upper left add a ticker at a time to add comparison.
Then check each time period.
I compared VCR, VDC, VGT, GLD, MORT, VNQ, SPY, GSG and VONG
https://www.morningstar.com/etfs/ARCX/VCR/quote


66 posted on 05/30/2021 6:50:29 AM PDT by JayGalt (The dogs bark but the caravan moves on.)
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To: BiglyCommentary
"Why? “As is” sales are normally totally legal."

I guarantee in a bubble market there are first-time home sellers forcing first-time home buyers to waive inspection in a home sold by first-time home realtors, none of whom have any concept of the fact that waiving inspection does not equate to the seller not having to disclose material defects.

67 posted on 05/30/2021 6:51:36 AM PDT by StAnDeliver (Eric Coomer of Dominion Voting Systems Is The Blue Dress)
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To: tired&retired

My cousin’s mortgage in Basking Ridge NJ 2019 was 3.625%; loans went bit lower after that to 3.125%


68 posted on 05/30/2021 6:55:38 AM PDT by JayGalt (The dogs bark but the caravan moves on.)
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To: Big Red Badger

You will like AZ, I have enjoyed it the last 8 years.

I have a lake place in rural Missouri that we use in the summer. After 11 years we are selling it due to the distance issues. It went up about 12% between 2009 and 2019. Now it has gone up 50% again in the last 18 months.


69 posted on 05/30/2021 7:12:27 AM PDT by KC Burke (If all the world is a stage, I would like to request my lighting be adjusted.)
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To: StAnDeliver

“having to disclose material defects.”

Yes, I think you are right about that because most state laws have that included for real estate transactions, unlike say selling a car.


70 posted on 05/30/2021 7:17:25 AM PDT by BiglyCommentary
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To: KC Burke

Take the Money
And Run!
I’m sure You enjoyed it
I know I’m looking
Forward to New Advetures!
Cheers!


71 posted on 05/30/2021 7:20:56 AM PDT by Big Red Badger (Be Still and Know that I Am God. Rev 19)
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To: FlipWilson

I think Zillo has a program where you pick out and buy a home they are listing and they will buy your house.


72 posted on 05/30/2021 7:24:04 AM PDT by Cold Heart
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To: tired&retired
Depends on many factors:

Do you plan to rent for the rest of your life?

Are you going to buy within the 2 year reinvestment limit (for tax purposes).

How close are you to retirement?

If you won't need to be liquid within a 30 day period, look at specialty REITs like MPW returning over 5%. (Yes, I own some)

(It takes time to sell the stock and get the cash available for immediate use.)

73 posted on 05/30/2021 7:41:57 AM PDT by G Larry (Force the Universities to use their TAX FREE ENDOWMENTS to pay off Student loan debt!!!)
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To: FreedomPoster

If you live anywhere near San Francisco, you could rent out that addition to a Google or Microsoft employee. You could probably cover your mortgage, but you should be careful about how many roommates they’re allowed to have.


74 posted on 05/30/2021 7:53:03 AM PDT by sphinx
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To: StAnDeliver
offering to waive inspections" I do not want to hear of any Freeper doing this from either end. If you force a buyer to waive inspection, if the amount of problem$ exceeds small claims you will be sued anyway, and it won't help that the realtor/realty will be sued as well. If you offer to waive inspection to make the sale, you will make your lawyer rich. See above.

^THIS! I'm a real estate investor who's now sold two flips where the buyer waived inspection. They close, take possession, and THEN they still raise hell and bitch about every little thing that they find, to their buyer agent, which comes to our hapless listing agent, to us. Of course, I'll still send my crews back to fix what's reasonable, but need to pull them off other jobs to do so at that point. Waiving inspections is a lose-lose for everyone except the inevitable law firm.

75 posted on 05/30/2021 9:45:49 AM PDT by LittleBillyInfidel (This tagline has been formatted to fit the screen. Some content has been edited.)
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To: snoringbear

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76 posted on 05/30/2021 10:13:04 AM PDT by LouAvul (Lying headlines from fake news articles written by pimps masquerading as journalists.)
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To: tired&retired

I closed on 032921 at 2.875%

I can’t figure out why a bank would make a 30 year loan to a guy who is 69 years old.


77 posted on 05/30/2021 11:20:32 AM PDT by Glennb51
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To: M.K. Borders

Same experience here in Northern Virginia.

However, it should be noted that the shortage of housing is not across the board. The shortage is in what are called “starter homes.” I guess the term comes from them being the size and price that lower and lower middle class families start out with (1500-2000 sq ft, 3+/2+). However, asking prices are now running $300k to $400k+. Still, they are being snapped up by local mid 30s to mid 40s families (Millenials) who are tired of being stuck in overpriced rental apartments and small homes. That doesn’t count the usual change over due to assignment/job rotations in DC, etc.

The last statistics I saw said there was less than two weeks of inventory on the market here in Prince William County. The optimal level is what? Three to six months?

Like you, we get flyers all the time from the “We buy your house in 7 days!” scammers. But we are also getting emails and flyers from legitimate real estate agents basically looking for homes, any homes to sell.

Funny thing is, we have gotten flyers from auto dealers want to by our late model SUV and van for “top dollar.” Part of it is,of course, trying to sell you a new (or newer) car but they seem sincere about needing good condition used Inventory to sell. So, same rationale as with homes: a market with eager buyers and too little inventory to sell.

While the article is a little light on details, I think the advice to wait is sound. The psychological state of buyers is not stable at the moment. And the irrational bidding wars, waiving appraisals, and the other buyer nonsense highlighted in the article are evidence of that. As the country and economy open back up, things (and thinking) should settle down and home buyer behavior return to “normal,” (whatever that means , these days).


78 posted on 05/30/2021 11:30:54 AM PDT by Captain Rhino (Determined effort today forges tomorrow. )
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To: BiglyCommentary
Sellers are telling buyers to go fly a kite if they insist on a home inspection and the sellers are getting multiple above asking price offers with no home inspection required.

No doubt sellers who previously had a hard time unloading a flawed home is taking advantage of this situation.

Anybody buying a house from a seller who refuses a home inspection is a fool.

79 posted on 05/30/2021 11:39:24 AM PDT by SamAdams76 (Give me a Pigfoot and a Bottle of Beer)
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To: BiglyCommentary

He’s right. I’m a self employed home inspector. My business is about half of what it has been in previous years due to buyers waving inspections. Waiving an inspection is risky.. I’ve saved countless people from buying potential money pits, or houses with major safety issues. I’ve recently inspected houses for people who saw the house on Zillow and made an offer. I’ve never seen anything like it!


80 posted on 05/30/2021 11:43:27 AM PDT by Freestate316 (Know what you believe and why you believe it.)
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