[BDParrish]

I see what you are saying, but I think you are missing something. In order for many of these stories to be true, the laws of physics must be suspended.

When Glen Curtiss saw what the Wright brothers had done, he immediately understood and imagined the improvement of ailerons. He did not envision magically defying gravity and travelling as pure energy through the galaxy and doing so without any fuel or motive power whatsoever.

The Treaty of Torsedillas causes people to believe in magic?

_Anything that is possible...is possible. Anything that is not possible is a miracle and can be done by God Almighty, as has happened as told in His word.

[fatman6502002]

I’ve not seen any evidence that these objects are able to defy the laws of physics. They just use the laws of physics far more efficiently than other aircraft.

[cgbg]

the laws of physics must be suspended

The current "laws of physics" reflect the current hairless ape understanding using our current language and current culture and current mathematics.

What did the "experts" think the "laws of physics" were in 1500?

The notion that modern man has a handle on this stuff is _exactly_ the same type of arrogance the Catholic Church and the Spanish and Portuguese kings displayed in 1500.

It looks like the only "law" we can count on is human certainty that their culture understands reality "this time". :-)