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To: entropy12

Here is what happened to me today — I share this with you because I agree with you.

You know what I am tired of? The antivaxxers. Let me tell you my day.

This morning I had to attend again to a patient with SARS from COVID. This patient had been in my ICU for 13 days including today. I work on 7 off 7 in this particular ICU. (I am sick of Hanoi Jane telling me my schedule and berating me for taking the time to educate people in the off time I have). I went back today after 7 days off. The patient was laying in a bed, lungs shredded from high vent pressures required to oxygenate the patient in order to prevent the other organs from dying from hypoxemia. Over the last 24 hours, this patient had developed severe renal failure (the harbinger for doom in the critically ill with CoVID). Patient had severe hypercoaguable state, and there was absolutely no path to survival.

Patient family was gathered day and night outside the patient’s window. We moved the patient’s bed to the window so the family could see their loved one. I had to tell 9 family members this morning that there was no way their loved one would survive. We were torturing the patient by ongoing therapy, patient had chest tubes, needed dialysis, had a failing heart, clots everywhere, and multiorgan system failure.

The kicker? The patient had the opportunity to be vaccinated. According to the family, the patient fell into the traps of the spewing of talking points that are horribly inaccurate that we see everyday on this forum. Gene therapy (it is not)...Vaccine passports...they do not exist, and the patient even tried to order and take ivermectin paste from the local supply shop.

I want every freeper who spews the bullsh*t talking points that try to sway people away from SAFE AND EFFECTIVE Vaccines to take a day, and round in the ICU with the lingering patients with COVID. I DARE them to have the courage to treat these patients, and then their families as they die HORRIBLE DEATHS. Spew you various 1 in a million problems and point out that this is OK.

The blood of many are on your hands. Do these so called Freepers who have the internet expertise of cut and past have the courage to look at this monster in the face? Care for the sick? Counsel the grieving family members? Until such as time that one of them has actually had the conversation that a loved one is dying, BUT THERE WAS A WAY TO PREVENT IT...they can all go to hell.


3 posted on 05/10/2021 8:13:00 PM PDT by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America: INCLUDING THEIR LIBERTIES)
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To: gas_dr

I have had similar experiences as has anyone who treats covid patients I would wager. Folks who are at risk who should have had the vaccine but didn’t now in the icu or worse. Generally I am seeing a younger unvaccinated crowd in the hospital now. Mostly age 30-55. some with risk factors some without. The fearmongering around the vaccine is costing lives. No doubt about it


5 posted on 05/10/2021 8:22:49 PM PDT by Mom MD ( )
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To: gas_dr

Summary:

YOU KILLED HER.

Blood is on YOUR hands, not mine/ours.

How many others have you killed with your ICU ‘treatments’???


6 posted on 05/10/2021 8:26:01 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: gas_dr; entropy12

Quit it with the “anti-vax” label. It’s juvenile.

There’s a lot of nuance in between.

People may want to be vaccinated themselves, but not for their children. (Even if their kids have had other required childhood shots.)
People may want to be vaccinated, but are hesitant If they’ve had Covid before and want an adjusted dosage of antibodies (maybe one shot instead of two)
People may want to vaccinated for flu and pneumonia, but are still needing data about things like vaccine’s impact on menstrual cycles etc...


14 posted on 05/10/2021 8:48:52 PM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege
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To: gas_dr

You’re totally unconvincing.

You’re a government shill.


23 posted on 05/10/2021 8:59:09 PM PDT by grumpygresh (Civil disobedience by jury nullification. )
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To: gas_dr; bagster
Here is what happened to me today — I share this with you because I agree with you.

You know what I am tired of? The antivaxxers. Let me tell you my day.

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Because you ignore medical evidence and blindly push 'vaccines', I'm open to the possibility that you have zero actual contact with patients. An FR user ID is not the same as a credential, nor is your supposed 'account' of your day you psoted.

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This morning I had to attend again to a patient with SARS from COVID. This patient had been in my ICU for 13 days including today. I work on 7 off 7 in this particular ICU. (I am sick of Hanoi Jane telling me my schedule and berating me for taking the time to educate people in the off time I have). I went back today after 7 days off. The patient was laying in a bed, lungs shredded from high vent pressures required to oxygenate the patient in order to prevent the other organs from dying from hypoxemia. Over the last 24 hours, this patient had developed severe renal failure (the harbinger for doom in the critically ill with CoVID). Patient had severe hypercoaguable state, and there was absolutely no path to survival.

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There have been safe, effective treatments for Covid-19 that cut the death rate by 85% for some time now. Dr Peter McCullough is not the only one reporting such successes.

FReepers, gas_dr won't tell you about them, in fact he pretends they don't exist, but safe treatments are available and I've written notes, and the first 7 minutes of the linked video includes specifics, on a treatment protocol developed by a team of physicians dedicated to treating Covid patients (85% success rate).

COVID Vaccine Killing Huge Numbers, Warns Leading Doctor – Liberty Sentinel [32 minute video]

But the medical industrial complex has kept the public in the dark intentionally to prevent them from benefitting from such treatments, and instead work to force the needless, dangerous experimental gene therapies (i.e., vaccines).

According to the May 5 data release by the CDC, only 5% of the deaths purportedly from Covid-19 are actually from Covid alone. The other 95% of deaths have, on average, 4 additional co-morbidities (hint: many not dying from covid).

The CDC quietly updated their statistics - 5% of Covid death stats died from Covid-19 alone

The death statistics are wildly exaggerated through policy and datamanipulation to drive people to accept needless vaccine risks and a lifetime of boosters.

The crime here, is that safe, proven medications are routinely withheld until a patient needs ventilation and has little if any hope of recovery. gas_dr works to falsely portray vaccines as the only answer, when answers have been available and obscurred from the public from the beginning (i.e., Dr. Zelenko).

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Patient family was gathered day and night outside the patient’s window. We moved the patient’s bed to the window so the family could see their loved one. I had to tell 9 family members this morning that there was no way their loved one would survive. We were torturing the patient by ongoing therapy, patient had chest tubes, needed dialysis, had a failing heart, clots everywhere, and multiorgan system failure.

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If this patient had been treated by those practicing effective protocols, (Dr. McCullough, the AAPS, Dr. Zelenko) the outcome would likely be different.

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The kicker? The patient had the opportunity to be vaccinated. According to the family, the patient fell into the traps of the spewing of talking points that are horribly inaccurate that we see everyday on this forum. Gene therapy (it is not)...Vaccine passports...they do not exist, and the patient even tried to order and take ivermectin paste from the local supply shop.

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You see? The patient didn't know about the safe, effective protocols available from experts in treating Covid-19, like Dr. McCullough. Others have reported success with ivermectin along (FReepers posting on FR and on the Internet) but vulnerable patients need the full protocols available.

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I want every freeper who spews the bullsh*t talking points that try to sway people away from SAFE AND EFFECTIVE Vaccines to take a day, and round in the ICU with the lingering patients with COVID. I DARE them to have the courage to treat these patients, and then their families as they die HORRIBLE DEATHS. Spew you various 1 in a million problems and point out that this is OK.

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People are dying from Covid-19 vaccinations and experiencing life damaging strokes, blood clots, neurological disorders, cardiac events and it's being suppressed. The adverse events for COvid vaccines are occurring at rate 10 times that of other vaccines, and the long term effects are only now just emerging. Those vaccinate can still become ill and are are immunosuppressed and succeptible to ADE - this in a matter of months - from now on.

Fertility issues for those vaccinated are being denied.

Halt Covid Vaccine, Prominent Scientist Tells CDC [Public Statement of Dr. Janic Chunn Lindsay to CDC Advisory Committee April 23, 2021]

The hazards of vaccination aren't 1 in a million - they are occuring in record breaking numbers and dwarf that of all other vaccines recorded in the CDC's VAERS database.. This fictional patient you describe was denied informed consent both as to the effective treatments, and the risks of vaccines.

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The blood of many are on your hands.

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The blood clots, strokes, cardiac arrests, paralysis, neurologic problems, spontaneous abortions, throbocytopenias and other assorted fallout from 'vaccines' are on your hands even though you're probably not a doctor.

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Do these so called Freepers who have the internet expertise of cut and past have the courage to look at this monster in the face?

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You have no more proof of expertise or credentials than we do. "gas_dr" is a username, not a credential. Your vigorous denial of safe effective treatments makes me doubt you have any relevant training.

Dr. McCullough's protocol cuts the death rate by 85% but you pretend it doesn't exist.

You mean Dr. PEter McCullough? Him? We keep citing doctors, immunologists and researchers, and being attacked for giving back advice. No amount of credentials of the experts deflects the false accusations and denials.

If the science was legitimate, you wouldn't see suppression of medical opinion, threats, firings, cancellations. Doctors would simply advise and patients would simply make decisions. In Canada, the medical board is threatening doctors not to talk about the risks of vaccinations. That's not normal. 

The same kind of bizarre suppression is happening in the US. Toe the 'narrative' or get fired, lose your license etc. This is not science.

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Care for the sick? Counsel the grieving family members? Until such as time that one of them has actually had the conversation that a loved one is dying, BUT THERE WAS A WAY TO PREVENT IT...they can all go to hell.

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We're not going anywhere because we're telling people there is a safe way to prevent needless death despite your attempts to deny them.

Mutliple protocols cut the death rate by 85%. If you had been a real doctor, and you had real medical ethics, you would keep posting the safe, time-tested solutions to actually treat sick people instead of withholding treatment and demanding the implementation of experimental vaccines with disasterous track records.

Instead, you are part of the problem, heckling the unwary to get a vaccine as if there is no solution other than participation in failed 'vaccine' trials.

You push an unwholesome agenda shared by the CDC and it's 'donors'.

CDC is a Private Organization - Not Government! [Donors include Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, three separate PFizer foundations, Merck, Bloomberg, George Soros' Open Society Foundation, Rothschild, Rockefeller, Sanofi, Merck etc.]


33 posted on 05/10/2021 10:07:24 PM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: gas_dr

A) Do you think someone who declines the vaccine should be fired and denied economic rights? THAT possibility is why we argue the anti-vaxx “talking points”. We know what’s possibly coming, and we must have arguments ready.

B) “talking points that are horribly inaccurate that we see everyday on this forum” - You can’t even repeat the salient ones, probably because you can’t refute them. Such as:
(1) the Phase 3 trials do not report that vaccines reduce Covid transmission; no study ever has.
(2) the “efficacy” in the Phase 3 trials reports relative risk reduction; the absolute risk of getting serious covid is extremely low, vaxx or not, especially for us non-obese and healthy
(3) aborted fetal cells were used to test these


35 posted on 05/10/2021 10:13:58 PM PDT by ReaganGeneration2
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To: gas_dr

I’m so sorry. Thanks for what you do.


42 posted on 05/10/2021 10:20:54 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: gas_dr
Hey, Why not direct your wrath at Fauci who funded the gain-of-function research in Wuhan and the Chicoms? And the Dems who called Trump a racist and encouraged flights from China and for people to mingle en masse. And the Dem Governors who put Covid-19 patients in nursing homes.
44 posted on 05/10/2021 10:28:32 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: gas_dr

Good post. I have good friends in Ohio who refused vaccinations last month (they are in their 50s) and so did their parents.

Fast forward to late April/May: of the 4, they all got covid. One recovered fine, one was in the hospital for 5 days, one was in the hospital a week, and one died the day before yesterday.

And they all could have had the vaccine in early April.


56 posted on 05/10/2021 10:53:44 PM PDT by olivia3boys
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To: gas_dr
https://medicalxpress.com/news/2021-04-sars-cov-spike-protein-lung.html

APRIL 27, 2021

"Our findings show that the SARS-CoV2 spike protein causes lung injury even without the presence of intact virus," said Pavel Solopov, Ph.D., DVM, research assistant professor at the Frank Reidy Research Center for Bioelectrics at Old Dominion University. "This previously unknown mechanism could cause symptoms before substantial viral replication occurs."

Solopov will present the new research at the American Society for Pharmacology and Experimental Therapeutics annual meeting during the virtual Experimental Biology (EB) 2021 meeting, to be held April 27-30.

= = = = = =

Mouse Model, but still.

Perhaps the NIH advice not to treat patients until they need oxygen isn't such a good idea.

61 posted on 05/10/2021 11:10:41 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: gas_dr
I lost a daughter to this disease, so it is highly personal for me, and I have been vaccinated. But, while I don't agree with those who are against the vaccination, I respect their right to make decisions for themselves.

As for me, anything that could possibly spare me and my family the pain of losing another family member is strong motivation.

82 posted on 05/11/2021 5:45:33 AM PDT by Repealthe17thAmendment
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To: gas_dr
The blood of many are on your hands.

Yesterday some a-hole MD on the local radio said that this ronavirus would be around for decades. In other words, decades of your little gene therapy and boosters, decades of masks, decades of control and economic deprivation. All for a viral infection easily avoided by keeping up blood levels of vitamin D and some daily zinc intake.

I've heard the same crap from conventional medicine for years. I was at one time married into a family of conventional medical specialists. They tried and failed to take my children away in Family Court, motivated by me being against childhood vax. I prevailed. My ex has now seen the light and there will be no cv19 vax for her or our children.

You don't believe in medical freedom and right to consent to treatment, I get it. But if you people try to put the law behind that concept, it is going to get ugly.

I wear a mask around, and do not touch people who have been cv19vx'd.

You're an accessory to genocide, whether you know it or not.
87 posted on 05/11/2021 9:05:14 AM PDT by SecAmndmt (Aim small, miss small)
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