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I do not wish to see the government set a timetable for manufacturers to produce EV‘s or else.

But there soon will be a time when electric vehicles will be as main stream as hybrids are today. It really won’t be long before charging times are in the 5 to 10 minute range and the battery range will be at least 500 miles or more.

1 posted on 04/28/2021 7:42:21 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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These laid off auto supply workers can learn how to code.


2 posted on 04/28/2021 7:44:51 PM PDT by Rebelbase
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“proposed banning of internal combustion vehicles”

Production or ownership? [though one will quickly follow the other]


3 posted on 04/28/2021 7:44:57 PM PDT by Paladin2
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No wonder we lost the election.


6 posted on 04/28/2021 7:52:49 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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Short version:
Gas cars have about 5,000 parts and last 250,000 miles.
EVs have about 300 parts and last 1,000,000 miles.
Bonus: electricity costs ~25% per mile vs gas.

Yeah, way fewer jobs - and major new EV factories are extremely automated.


8 posted on 04/28/2021 7:57:10 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (The claim of consensus is the first refuge of scoundrels.)
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With EVs you are replacing mechanical parts with thousands of wonky electronic devices


10 posted on 04/28/2021 8:00:05 PM PDT by kaktuskid
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Not in our lifetimes.

Do you think they have that much copper laid up somewhere?

It all has to be mined.


14 posted on 04/28/2021 8:17:07 PM PDT by Jonty30 (Just because I coughed on you does not mean that I have covid. It means that we have covid. )
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Let the market decide. If EVs get to that point, ICE cars will rapidly go extinct.


24 posted on 04/28/2021 8:36:19 PM PDT by Kevmo (The tree of liberty is thirsty.)
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2/3rds fewer parts in electric vehicles vs. gas powered autos. So I’m told.


28 posted on 04/28/2021 8:42:52 PM PDT by cornfedcowboy ( )
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So where exactly is all of this electricity going to come from? How are the parts and vehicles going to be made? According to the asinine plan, wind and solar but that is absolutely ludicrous.


29 posted on 04/28/2021 8:44:05 PM PDT by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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They’ll have to compete with millions more of illegals aliens Biden and the Democrats are bringing in.


34 posted on 04/28/2021 8:58:32 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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That EV crap ain’t gonna work in the north land. It’s beyond stupid to think it would. Beyond stupid.


42 posted on 04/28/2021 10:15:12 PM PDT by vpintheak (Live free, or die!)
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Cry me a river union dudes. You endorsed this clown.


49 posted on 04/28/2021 11:16:30 PM PDT by jmacusa (The result of conformity is everyone will like you but yourself.)
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EV are inferior to ICE vehicles for long road trips. ICE vehicles will never be replaced completely until there is break through in technology greatly reducing recharge times. Or the government forces them on us.


57 posted on 04/29/2021 2:35:50 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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China controls 80% of the global battery market, and almost 100% of the raw materials for EV batteries.

China. The CCP.


64 posted on 04/29/2021 2:56:22 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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Put them to work building nuclear power plants and upgrading the power grid. Buy Dung’s EV mandates will require both.


66 posted on 04/29/2021 2:58:13 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Der Impfstoff macht frei.)
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It’s not about the vehicles.

It’s about the grid.

I guarantee you we’ll have suitable vehicles before we have the grid capacity and infrastructure to supply them.

And consumers will still be screwed.


69 posted on 04/29/2021 3:25:54 AM PDT by mewzilla (Those aren't masks. They're muzzles. )
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my driveway, my choice...


71 posted on 04/29/2021 3:51:17 AM PDT by heavy metal (smiling improves your face value as well as making people wonder what the hell you're up to... 😁)
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instead of more mandates, they should eliminate the rules blocking golf carts from city streets.

also, remove safety features, required of automobiles, from the EV’S.

eventually, everything returns to sanity


72 posted on 04/29/2021 3:57:13 AM PDT by Steven Tyler
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Please allow me to agree AND disagree with you.

Battery technologies will advance as will the availability of charging locations, but ...

Time to charge comes down to kWh (capacity) of the battery divided by kW of the charging system (rate of charge).

A large ICE has a 100kWH battery, +/-. To charge that in 5 minutes is an impractical volts × amps (watts) number.

Germany is considering deploy 800 +/- V charging stations that will charge a passenger vehicle to full in less than 30 minutes. 800 V AC is “huge” voltage, along with the required amperage. That’s heavy/medium industrial AC supply.

Not impossible, but ...

E.g. even if you upgrade household service to a little over 300 V, ya ain’t getting close to a 5 minute charge time.

Lastly, the thermal effects of a 5 minute charge time to 100 kWh is really something.

Better model is to pull your vehicle into a charged-battery “filling station” and let a robotic arm swap your battery pack.


73 posted on 04/29/2021 4:03:48 AM PDT by Blueflag
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It really won’t be long before charging times are in the 5 to 10 minute range and the battery range will be at least 500 miles or more.

The amount of energy a vehicle needs to travel 500 miles is the same regardless of how fast it is charged (assuming that other factors such as speed, driving style, and environmental conditions are the same). But if you reduce the charge time, say by a factor of 10, you will need 10 times the current (amps) to deliver that amount of energy to the vehicle.

You are dreaming if you think that sort of current capacity, multiplied by millions, will be available any time soon without a massively expensive rebuilding of our energy infrastructure.

While it may well be possible to achieve the charge times you claim, in a practical sense, it isn't going to happen.

75 posted on 04/29/2021 4:09:18 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Der Impfstoff macht frei.)
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