Posted on 04/27/2021 12:36:08 PM PDT by BeauBo
(President Trump's Operation Warp Speed Update)
(A big drop (half speed) in the number of shots given - No J&J yet - Cases and Hospitalizations now heading distinctly downward at the National level)
Total Vaccine Doses Delivered: 297,543,635 (17,642,250 J&J)
Administered: 232,407,669 (8,097,650 J&J)
People Vaccinated, At Least One Dose: 141,751,857
Fully Vaccinated: 96,747,454
(Excerpt) Read more at covid.cdc.gov ...
That included me. Now I'm DONE!
For those trying to figure out where to get a first or second vaccination, try https://vaccinefinder.org. You can search for locations near you that currently stock Moderna (mRNA), Pfizer (mRNA), or the non-mRNA Johnson & Johnson.
Large clinical trials like what you’re describing are very expensive to run (averaging about $50 million each) and fail about 90% of the time. Unless the government is handing out tons of free money to finance those trials, they’re unlikely to be run.
Now, in an era where government is throwing mountains of money at anything and everything (except you and me), could they have spared some cash to run such trials? Sure. And I wouldn’t be against that. But I don’t expect drug companies to volunteer to pick up the tab to try random drugs and protocols in the hopes that something, somewhere pans out.
Bingo!
Now that I’m finally over a lingering cold I’ll get it as soon as I happen upon a place that will do it quickly without appointment.
Hard to provide in rural areas.
The stupendous efficiency of mass vaccination sites cannot be maintained.
Well let’s not dance around it. There is enough evidence already published, small and varied from around the world, to study both Ivermectin+ and HCQ+ as an early treatment. Maybe they will fail. But doesn’t seem like either of those would cause harm (except maybe to the placebo arms). Zinc, D3, Vit C, azithromycin or erethromycin (depending on the patient) and one of those two generic drugs. Taken upon diagnoses or first symptoms.
The outcome study should be the same as with vaccines. Does taking these reduce risk of severity of infection, viral load, hospitalization and/or death?
Should be fairly simple, and fairly cheap even at $50 million a pop given what we’re spending. But there is no real money to be made on generic stuff like that, and if it were shown to work nobody would have enrolled (or stayed enrolled) in a vaccine trial.
“New People Receiving 1st Dose: 782,000 (Very Very Weak)”
If you have been reading my posts you know I had a gut feel that this was coming.....They are finding in more difficult by the day to get people to show up for the vaccine.
He!!, I even read this morning that somewhere they were giving out “free drinks” to people who got vaccinated.
Right or wrong, a sizeable chunk of the American populace is refusing to get vaccinated.
Unfortunately, large scale trials are expensive. There were a couple HCQ trials, including the University of Minnesota HCQ trial that was funded by Novartis and others, but the trials showed no actual benefit. There are now a couple of ivermectin studies starting. Unfortunately, the internet hype never seems to translate to reality, as several Freeper MDs with hands on clinical COVID experience have stated. And it’s not just cheap generics that this applies to. Several super expensive drugs, like Remdesivir, have also been hyped, only to show disappointing results in the real world.
You'll improve your odds by entering your zip code at https://vaccinefinder.org. You'll see all your local vaccination providers and which vaccines they currently have in stock.
“Right or wrong, a sizeable chunk of the American populace is refusing to get vaccinated.”
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There certainly is such a chunk. But I suspect there’s a bigger chunk who would be happy to be vaccinated if they just didn’t have to go out of their way to get it. For this lazy demographic, someone would have to arrange to have the vaccinations come to them (e.g., vaccination clinics at places of employment). And, WHEN WILL INDIVIDUAL MEDICAL PRACTICES & CLINICS BE ALLOWED TO GIVE THE VACCINES?
Let’s open everything up and don’t require masks at all. Let HERD IMMUNITY TAKE OVER!
Yeah, that MN study of HCQ is an example of a study designed to fail. That study was looking at is as prophylaxis not as a treatment. They didn’t add zinc or vitamin D or C or antibiotics. They didn’t follow the protocols designed and used by for example the Dr. in upstate NY, the infectious disease clinic in Marseilles, and the virologist from Yale. It failed, and was supposed to fail. Easy to make a trial fail.
I don’t think it would work as prophylaxis. Not even the vaccines do that. The question is, will these combinations reduce severity of infection, reduce risk of hospitalization and death, keep viral load low etc. Could they be effective treatments for all the people who for whatever reason are not vaccinated and catch the virus. That’s the only question to study imo, and the protocols are well established and plenty of pilot studies done by these and other doctors.
Good vaccine news from Louisiana...
Johnston von Springer
@johnstonvon
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An update on breakthrough cases (when people test positive after being fully vaccinated) from
@JoeKanter
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367 breakthrough cases in Louisiana (that’s 0.03% of those who are fully vaxxed in the state)
65% of those cases have been seen in women
50% of those cases are symptomatic
... .002% of breakthrough cases hospitalized.
While scheduling an appointment is required, CVS did a great job for us. We spent less than 30 minutes inside for both trips combined.
I agree that places like Kroger and Walmart would help greatly by having an outdoor clinic where people could just walk up and get er done.
I suspect we’ll see something of the sort when the J&J gets fully rolling along with the Noravox single-dose vaccines, preventing people from not following through with the 2nd shots needed with the others.
“I’ll get it as soon as I happen upon a place that will do it quickly without appointment.”
https://vaccinefinder.org/search/
The little signs at the high speed parking lot entrance of the local Walmart turned out to be for flu shots—not COVID shots. So there’s no local advertising, and appointments are required for the free shots. Not hard to do at all, but few people know about the availability at that large, busy store.
“WHEN WILL INDIVIDUAL MEDICAL PRACTICES & CLINICS BE ALLOWED TO GIVE THE VACCINES?”
Maybe refrigeration requirements have held that up. J&J and Novavax should help, when they are out in bulk.
Georgia is also winding down its mass vaccination sites.
There are some cheap, small chest-type freezers in at least some of the Walmart stores for less than $200. They’ll go down to 10 below zero, Fahrenheit (cold enough for Moderna, IIRC). There’s a smaller size, too, but I don’t know how cold they run. A family practice should be able to afford that. And someone in an office could use the freezer at home, when it’s all over.
Someone in one Walmart pharmacy said that the company is “fined $20,000” for each dose that’s wasted on an appointment no-show. I doubt the honesty of that, but they do try to use all of the doses with backup customers on a list. It looks a little complicated for companies willing to participate (whatever the penalty might really be).
Thanks . Good info there.
A clinic very near me is out of stock but when they do get it, even making an appt won’t be a hassle.
Of note, recently the daily hospitalization numbers for the 65+ age group have trended below both the 18-49 and 50-64 age groups.
https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#covidnet-hospitalization-network
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