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1 posted on 04/20/2021 6:45:24 PM PDT by anthropocene_x
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That’s the second article I’ve recently seen focused against Intel chips. The other one was about ARM chips, IIRC. Looks like the free traitors took notice.

Intel to spend $20 billion on U.S. chip plants as CEO challenges Asia dominance
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-intel-manufacturing-idUSKBN2BF2WU


2 posted on 04/20/2021 6:51:57 PM PDT by familyop (Only here for the tales from the rubber room.)
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To: anthropocene_x

I don’t run Windows, BTW.


3 posted on 04/20/2021 6:53:17 PM PDT by familyop (Only here for the tales from the rubber room.)
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To: anthropocene_x

Intel’s “way out”:

A) License the ARM ‘core’

B) Get those front-end, fine chip-fab geometries working ...

C) Beat ARM and the contract foundries at their own game.


5 posted on 04/20/2021 6:55:00 PM PDT by _Jim (Save babies)
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To: anthropocene_x

I would not mind trying them in devices but apple does not allow you to fix your own apple products. You get financially raped by apple to do simple repairs and replacements on stuff you own already.


7 posted on 04/20/2021 7:01:34 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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Intel is so screwed. On one hand, it’s tough to feel any sympathy for them considering how they milked their dominance for years giving consumers tiny year-over-year performance increases while charging top-dollar. OTOH, it’s tough to see an American company lose so badly to off-shore manufacturers.

With an x86 process that is bigger and less efficient and consequently hotter than AMD’s - which makes their mobile CPUs less and less attractive - and no x86 alternatives in their own pipeline to challenge Apple, the only sector they still enjoy some measure of dominance in is the server segment...for now.

Maybe they can take that investment capital to build a fab that can make Apple’s proprietary ARM chips for them. Apple would sure like to have a supply vector that exists outside of Asia with Taiwan’s future looking increasingly uncertain.


8 posted on 04/20/2021 7:03:34 PM PDT by ScubaDiver (Reddit refugee.)
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To: anthropocene_x

I can verify this. I bought a Macbook Air with the M1.

The thing is blazingly fast.


10 posted on 04/20/2021 7:12:34 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (I'd rather be anecdotally alive than scientifically dead...)
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To: anthropocene_x

Nope. You can pry my 2020 i9 Intel MBP out of my cold dead hands. (Need it to develop iOS builds for Unreal and Unity)

No BootCamp? No sale.

Don’t care how good they claim an emulator is, it’s still an emulator.
Parallels does a damn good job of running windows code if I don’t need to run it natively, and if I do, I use BootCamp.

And Windows 10 for ARM sucks donkey... (only version that works with Parallels 16.5/M1

“Games and apps won’t work if they use a version of OpenGL greater than 1.1, or if they rely on “anti-cheat” drivers that haven’t been made for Windows 10 ARM-based PCs.”

OpenGL 1.1 is so 1997 and only supports basic textured objects with diffuse maps. no vertex, fragment or pixel shaders. no bump/normal mapping, no spec map, no AO map, no tessellation ...


13 posted on 04/20/2021 7:28:43 PM PDT by Starcitizen (So Indian H1B crybaby trash runs Free Republic moderation??? Seems so. )
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To: anthropocene_x

And remember, chip makers usually have at least 10-year roadmaps. This means that the M3, M4...M20 are in planning stages. Apple must have confidence that this platform will compete and take over Intels market share even in cloud computing data centers and high power massively multi-core / multi-chip applications. I expect to see everything running on this architecture in 10 to 15 years and Windows OS will be just another trashy niche OS for hobbyists and Microsoft will focus on Azure and Microsoft Office as their main revenue streams.


15 posted on 04/20/2021 7:35:16 PM PDT by lefty-lie-spy (Stay Metal)
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To: anthropocene_x

But if China should happen to invade Taiwan, then Intel will look pretty good, and Apple will be scrambling.


20 posted on 04/20/2021 7:46:06 PM PDT by proxy_user
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To: anthropocene_x
Been using Intel processors since the 8080 days.

Bought a MacBook M1 2 months ago.

Goodbye, Intel - your lunch has been eaten. I do high-end computing and it's not even a contest, plus I can literally leave my laptop unplugged for well over a day without even thinking of needing a charge. Multiple days if I'm only using it in a general way.

I still haven't heard the fan come on - even under the highest loads. My Intel machines keep the house warm during the winter.

PS - I'm the furthest thing from a Mac fanboi...

23 posted on 04/20/2021 7:56:19 PM PDT by politicket (Don't remove a Bernie Sanders bumper sticker. It's the only thing holding the car together!)
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To: anthropocene_x

“ it powers just two devices: The late 2020 MacBook Air and MacBook Pro”

And, as of today, the iPad.


24 posted on 04/20/2021 7:56:29 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (The claim of consensus is the first refuge of scoundrels.)
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32 posted on 04/20/2021 8:56:39 PM PDT by kanawa ((Securing the 2022/2024 elections is of paramount importance.))
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To: anthropocene_x

Also used in the 24” iMac.


45 posted on 04/21/2021 5:18:22 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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The fact is we have reached a level of computing power where 99% of users wouldn’t notice anything greater. Now the push is on power use and size.


49 posted on 04/21/2021 6:20:01 AM PDT by CodeToad (Arm up! They Have!)
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