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To: ThunderSleeps

The other massive difference is that if they were your friends they wanted you to try because it would be for you.

The people pressuring you to take the vax are doing it NOT AT ALL FOR YOU, they are only believing it will help THEM. They don’t give two craps if you die or are permanently damaged.

Dotn’t fall for the shaming. People are not shamed for not giving blood, if they don’t. Not deciding to participate in what may be considered a noble act is not shameful. We have no moral obligation to, we praise those that do. The ones that don’t aren’t evil.

I am not morally obligated to die or be permanently harmed so that others might “feel better”.

Its a serious red line for millions of people. If we can’t determine and decide what medical risks we want to take, there will be many, many fights to the death over this.

This is why “benevolent dictators” are the w orst of the bunch. They won’t allow you to live your conscience, they will not leave you alone in peace. This will lead to great violence to preserve life against those who will override your life choices.


54 posted on 04/18/2021 10:11:05 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

****Don’t fall for the shaming. People are not shamed for not giving blood, if they don’t. Not deciding to participate in what may be considered a noble act is not shameful. We have no moral obligation to, we praise those that do. The ones that don’t aren’t evil.****

Shaming and shunning. Not the practice of these people. Silence is violence is now the mantra. Believe or be dead is the core belief of all these people.

Obviously I am talking not only about the rads running the streets . This culture has percolated and spilled from the top down.

You are very right my FRiend.


59 posted on 04/19/2021 12:24:42 AM PDT by ResponseAbility (-The truth of liberalism is the stupid can feel smart, the lazy entitled, and the immoral unashamed)
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To: Secret Agent Man
Oh I will not succumb to peer pressure to try experimental drugs. I'm sure many/most of the people applying the pressure believe they are doing the right thing. I see it differently. Regardless of who is right, what I am doing is providing a valuable service. I am choosing to remain in the control group. The control group is a common, necessary part of any experimental drug trial.

If they are right and covid is something to be feared and the vaccines are the be-all end-all then they should thank me - I am voluntarily risking my health to provide this valuable contribution to the drug trial. Someone has to be in the control group.

If I am right, and the risks of the experimental drug trials outweigh the risks of covid then I am again providing that valuable control group service. Further, it will be me and people like me who end up caring for and supporting the victims, carrying on. So again, they should thank me.

If any lib-lurkers out there cannot see the value here, and still feels the need to try to shame others into one path or another... You really have to stop and ask yourself why. By what justification are you trying to pursuade, even force others to your will. Realize that for every reason you have for your position, they have just as many reasons and convictions for theirs.

61 posted on 04/19/2021 5:14:16 AM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Biden/Harris - illegitimate and everyone knows it.)
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To: Secret Agent Man
“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience..." ~ C.S. Lewis
65 posted on 04/19/2021 9:40:47 AM PDT by 444Flyer (John 3, Revelation 20, Joshua 24:15, 1 Kings 18:16-39, Pick a side...)
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