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To: grey_whiskers
I disagree that Covid 19 was ever intended to be a “bio-weapon” in any normal sense of the word. But I do agree that our government, the media, big tech, and even private industry make it appear that simple stupidity runs the world. And any challenge these days can and will often turn into a major fail. But I do not believe that our opponents have a magic ball that they can look into to determine which challenges will result in a certain outcome.

I think it is amazing that the authorities managed to get these experimental vaccines to market in record time. However the typical safety protocols were put in place for good reasons. If Covid-19 really was a terribly dangerous “bio-weapon” killing millions of people maybe this would have been a risk worth taking. But it is becoming more and more obvious every day that the numbers have been over-hyped and calculated in ways to intentionally cause panic and public concern. In the end it will likely be found to be marginally or maybe no more serious than many typical flu variants and that the primary cause of more than normal deaths that we keep hearing about are because of the actions taken to "save us" all. I can attest to this from actual people who I know and my personal experiences. I know two people who became serously ill with pneumonia this year. One of them died; their doctors both pointed the finger at the masks that they were wearing almost 24/7 for puting them at greater risk.

Many if not most of the people that I used to work in Hazmat with are not taking the experimental vaccines at the risk of losing their positions. It is the same with many in the medical fields and the military where the actual risks are understood. And interestingly enough these are people who on average take many times more vaccines than most people in the general public. I have never had a problem with any of the multiple vaccines that I used to have every year, but I will not be taking one of these new experimental vaccines even if the government starts to try and make things more difficult not to. Any vaccine that is being pushed by mandatory measures that take no account of individual differences in my opinion is something to be avoided. If it was worthwhile there would be no need for this type of coercion.

47 posted on 04/18/2021 11:02:16 AM PDT by fireman15
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To: fireman15
I do believe you're talking past me a bit here; or that you haven't understood my point.

I disagree that any and every bioweapon must "necessarily" be a doomsday weapon; what if were designed, not to kill large numbers of people, but either

a) to gum up the works of our medical system
b) or instill panic
c) or serve as a lead-in / pretext to mRNA injections

Making a classical "bubonic plague" or (like in Tom Clancy) "airborne Ebola" might either boomerang out of control, *or* invite an all-out (say, > 2000 warhead) nuclear strike.

But a lower-level virus would still cause us lots of problems, and give enough plausible deniability, that there wouldn't be the political will for a massive military retaliation.

Or, alternatively, we do *know* this virus was bioengineered. I literally don't have time to get into that. But, what of the scenario that this virus was being researched in the same facility that also housed research on real "end of the world viruses" -- and by theft / malfeasance / poor quality control, something gets out of containment; the Chinese authorities first overreact, then realize it wasn't a doomsday virus...

(they put on their Dick Dastardly / Snidely Whiplash mask) they PRETEND it is, to scare the sh*t out of the rest of the world, and then knowingly release one of their other, non-doomsday bugs, knowing the rest of the world can't take chances.

The other possibility I can see, which kind of ties in with your ideas is that Wuhan was researching "gain of function" and had developed the COOF partway, so they knew it would make you sick, but not kill everyone; and then in conjunction with Gates/Fauci/whoever, release it in order to stampede people into taking mRNA jabs, which they otherwise couldn't test on people, SINCE, the prior animal trials on mRNA injections sucked so bad (whether antibody-dependent enhancement as in dengue fever, or whatever). In that case, they'd just be doing it with an utterly immoral dedication to fun and profit, not wiping out 30%-70% of humanity.

That being said, long-term sequelae simply AREN'T known:

a) The Lancet says 20% of COVID sufferers have abnormal blood clots (which just might be lifelong)

2) Early reports out of China before any Chinese came here, or any vaccine, said that COVID loved receptors on the testes

3)_Many anecdotal reports on mRNA vaccines concerning abnormal menstrual cramps/bleeding, miscarriages -- even among women who hadn't received the jab, but were in close contact with those that had. (Recall the paper I just posted showing the spike protein can induce coagulopathy even without entering cells.)

In otherwords, it might've been a weapon, without HAVING to be a Doomsday Weapon™. Kind of like how the press calls everything from a 38-revolver to a 12-gauge shotgun an "assault rifle" /dry>

48 posted on 04/18/2021 11:27:48 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: fireman15

RE: the end it will likely be found to be marginally or maybe no more serious than many typical flu variants and that the primary cause of more than normal deaths that we keep hearing about are because of the actions taken to “save us” all.

I’m not sure about the use of the word - Marginally.

My personal experience and observations tell me that it is several times more lethal and deadly than the flu, especially to the elderly and those with serious illnesses.

It is also many times more infectious than the flu.

It might not be as lethal as many nake it out to be, but it’s still a danger to the public.

Personally, I’ve seen numerous family and friends get infected by COVID, many mild but some serious. I also have friends who died after contracting it. Hence, I am not going to downplay its seriousness, but neither do I believe we have to destroy our economy because of it.


49 posted on 04/18/2021 11:28:02 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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