A Missing Link in The History of The Alphabet Might Finally Be Discovered

https://www.sciencealert.com ^ | 16 APRIL 2021 | OWEN JARUS

[llevrok]

And why 26 letters in the order they are in?

[Honest Nigerian]

almost spewed coffee (or is that “coththee”?)
Well played!!

[Red Badger]

Why do Canadians say ‘Zed’ for Z?................

[bankwalker]

Same reason jethro Bodeen says ought for zero.

[WhattheDickens?]

Thanks for posting - hilarious!

But the funniest joke was Hartman’s “Clinton” routine:
Audience question: Jennifer Flowers says you have a small p*n*s. Do You?
Hartman’s Clinton’s answer: “It’s not that I have a small p*n*s, it’s that Jennifer Flowers has a big mouth.”

That one had me rolling!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VV3CjIWeVBo

[PIF]

Many scholars and many Hindus date the Rig Veda to 12,000 BC

[Deplorable American1776]

The first letter spell out Slave? Couldn’t it spell STOP, START, STAR or STEPHEN? Nothing but the word SLAVE? Sure...

[Red Badger]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rigveda

[Candor7]

almost spewed coffee (or is that “coththee”?)
Well played!!>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Be carethul now, or the next fing you know fey will be putting kola nut extract back into Coca-Cola!

[PIF]

Not trusting wiki because its an edited opinion, while may other sources disagree.

https://www.learnreligions.com/what-are-vedas-1769572
The Rig Veda: The Book of Mantra
The Rig Veda is a collection of inspired songs or hymns and is a main source of information on the Rig Vedic civilization. It is the oldest book in any Indo-European language and contains the earliest form of all Sanskrit mantras, dating back to 1500 BCE- 1000 BCE. Some scholars date the Rig Veda as early as 12000 BCE - 4000 BCE.

[minnesota_bound]

One day maybe we learn why our keyboards are QWERTY and not ABC... etc.

[Jimmy Valentine]

What about Cuneiform B from Sumer? That goes back to at least 3,500 BC.

[SunkenCiv]

The 12,000 year dating of the Rig Veda is nonsense.

[SunkenCiv]

This is the Digest ping for this week, got it done on Saturday for the first time in a while, a long while.

90. The close resemblance of the texts of Ras Shamra with diverse books of the Scriptures repudiates most of the assertions of the Bible criticism (late origin of the texts), as well as the modern theory about the Canaanite heritage in the Scriptures (early origin of the texts).
91. The theory that alphabetic writing was perfected in the sixteenth century cannot be supported by the Ras Shamra texts of the ninth century.
92. As the alphabetic writing of Hebrew in cuneiform of Ras Shamra is contemporaneous with the stela of Mesha written in Hebrew alphabetic characters, the alphabet most probably did not originate in Phoenicia but in Palestine.
93. The theory that the Ras Shamra texts contain mention of Ionians, and of their city Didyme, is correct, but it concerns the ninth century Ionians.
94. The Khar of the Egyptian and Ras Shamra texts were not Hurrites or Troglodytes, but Carians.
95. The statement by classical authors that the Carians migrated from Crete is corroborated by the name of Keret of the Ras Shamra texts.
96. The Khari (Cari) of the Scriptures were the Khar or Carians from Ras Shamra.
97. The Carian language is studied in the disguise of the Hurrian (or Hurrite) language. The reading of the cuneiform Khar can be helped by a comparative study of the Carian inscriptions in Greek letters found in Egypt.
98. The reading of Carian will contribute to the decipherment of the Cyprian and Cretan hieroglyphics and may aid in reconstructing the early history of the West.
99. The name of the city Ugarit (Ras Shamra) is probably the equivalent of Euagoras, the Carian-Ionian name of a number of Cyprian kings.
100. The name Nikmed of the Ras Shamra texts is the Ionian-Carian name Nikomed(es).
101. The city of Ras Shamra was destroyed in the days of the King Nikmed by Shalmanassar (in 856 B. C. E). Its destruction is recorded by Shalmanassar and the city is called “the city of Nikdem”. A proclamation telling about the expulsion of Nikmed, found in the city, refers to the same event.
102. It is highly probable that King Nikmed (Nikdem) fled to Greece, and that this man of learning there introduced alphabetic writing. Therefore, he might have been Cadmos of the Greek tradition.
103. Minoan inscriptions of the Mycenaean Age may comprise alphabetic writings following in principle the cuneiform alphabet of Ras Shamra Hebrew.

Immanuel Velikovsky, "Theses for the Reconstruction of Ancient History", June 10, 1945

[SunkenCiv]

One of *those* topics. See my previous post, and visit our fine selection of topics in the "epigraphyandlanguage" keyword.

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[SunkenCiv]

Thanks for the topic and pings!

[PIF]

The 12,000 year dating of the Rig Veda is nonsense.

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Because ...?

[SunkenCiv]

Uh, because it is.

12,000 years ago, Rig Veda; 8,000 years go by, nothing (including btw no trace of the Rig Veda or any other texts in all of India, other than the Harappan script, oldest known about 3500 BC, but which remains undeciphered, but is nearly uniformly recognized as holding an unknown agglutinative language, which the Indic languages obviously aren't), then all of a sudden, written versions first appear when, surprise, writing makes its debut in the subcontinent.

Michael Wood, in his "The Story of India", does some of his best presentation in the first chapter of that series, but he goes off on his usual "the west is awful and doomed" path throughout the series. Still enjoyable. He makes the obviously untestable and quite ridiculous claim that the oral transmission of epics has been perfectly accurate all the way back to the era when humans were mimicking bird sounds and other animal noises, before humans started speaking on their own.

While oral traditions are clearly what we still operate under, for everyday life (don't eat that, it's poisonous, etc) it falls flat on its ass in the consistent and accurate transmission of prehistory. Too bad, because I've always liked it. Nice and malleable.

[Kevmo]

Inspired? Who makes that determination?

[Kevmo]

We already know why. The first typewriter manufacturers noted that the prongs would stick together when someone would type too FAST. So they laid out the keys in such a way as to slow typists down.