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Flubros and Flubras! Year 2 (a place for Flubros and Flubras)
http://www.Freerepublic.com ^ | 8 April 2021 | Impimp

Posted on 04/08/2021 4:48:05 AM PDT by impimp

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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

*****All the vaccines ultimately stimulate immune response by ***presentation of antigens to dendritic cells, which then bring the antigens to lymph nodes, beginning production of specialized T-cells and B-cells. B-cells in particular produce neutralizing antibodies. Neutralizing antibodies are a key factor in blocking future infection.*****

WoW , OK now I get it. You are a compartomentolized mouthpiece.

If you have some “utopia drug” then share it without conditions if you have our truly benefit at heart.


21 posted on 04/08/2021 6:18:42 AM PDT by ResponseAbility (-The truth of liberalism is the stupid can feel smart, the lazy entitled, and the immoral unashamed)
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest
Lies.

If you object (lol), cite in this CDC promoted ongoing clinical trial where they cite your quoted claim of "blocking of infection".

You cannot. It does NOT.

The ONLY claim:

"From the GRADE evidence assessment, the level of certainty for the benefits of the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine was type 1 (high certainty) for the prevention of symptomatic COVID-19. Evidence was type 3 (low certainty) for the estimate of prevention of COVID-19–associated hospitalization and type 4 (very low certainty) for the estimate of prevention of death. No data were available to assess the efficacy for prevention of asymptomatic SARS-CoV-2 infection. "

To-wit: If it does not prevent infection nor prevent the spread of disease, it is NOT a "vaccine".

This is reflected in proclamations that the 'vaccinated' must "maintain mitigation measures" (masking & social distancing except, of course, among the 'vaccinated' themselves, as is now being used to coerce/manipulate the population into compliance with these EXPERIMENTAL shots).

The shots are treatments, WHOLLY-EXPERIMENTAL and not without risk. Furthermore, they are WHOLLY UNNECESSARY for over 3/4 of the population.

The Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices’ Interim Recommendation for Use of Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine — United States, December 2020

You are a troll and 'vaccine' cheerleader peddling LIES. Propaganda, solely to benefit...whom?

22 posted on 04/08/2021 6:30:17 AM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: impimp

That “conservative” leader is afraid to go against his chief medical officer.

Of course, he could fire that CMO and hire someone more reasonable, but if he did, who knows what would happen next.

If you think Canada is bad, check out Australia and Israel. The latter has for all intents removed the rights of unvaxxed ppl to be part of society. And we have ppl here on FR who think that they are a marvel of cv19 management.


23 posted on 04/08/2021 6:30:26 AM PDT by SecAmndmt (Aim small, miss small)
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

I didn’t make up the definition.. nice try though. Actually the one I posted was the first one that came up. There’s tons of sources for the definition of a vaccine but here’s a couple:

https://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/vaccine

One of many listed: a. A preparation of a weakened or killed pathogen, such as a bacterium or virus, or of a portion of the pathogen’s structure that upon administration to an individual stimulates antibody production or cellular immunity against the pathogen but is incapable of causing severe infection.

https://www.vaccines.gov/basics

A vaccine is made from very small amounts of weak or dead germs that can cause diseases — for example, viruses, bacteria, or toxins. It prepares your body to fight the disease faster and more effectively so you won’t get sick.

This site also list the mRNA “vaccine” as a type but as listed it doesn’t meet the definition they list.

I get how the Pfizer and Moderna shots work.

Both the Pfizer-BioNTech and the Moderna COVID-19 “vaccines” use messenger RNA (mRNA). Coronaviruses have a spike-like structure on their surface called an S protein. COVID-19 mRNA “vaccines” give cells instructions for how to make a harmless piece of an S protein. After vaccination, your cells begin making the protein pieces and displaying them on cell surfaces. Your immune system will recognize that the protein doesn’t belong there and begin building an immune response and making antibodies.

I believe in the definition I listed so I don’t see this as true vaccine. It’s a hybrid treatment that may act like a vaccine but not a true vaccine.


24 posted on 04/08/2021 6:31:19 AM PDT by maddog55 ((the only thing systemic in America is the left's hatred of it!))
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To: logi_cal869

Bravo!


25 posted on 04/08/2021 6:33:24 AM PDT by .30Carbine
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest
Dude. You're getting whupped on this thread. Tell them the one about nobody dying from the vax.

That should go over big.


26 posted on 04/08/2021 6:45:40 AM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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LOL


27 posted on 04/08/2021 6:47:43 AM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: impimp

“It’s a nuclear reactor that has set off a chain reaction and is out of control. It’s a biological Fukushima.”

Alex Jones would be proud of this guy...and sorry he (Alex) didn’t think of this comment himself.


28 posted on 04/08/2021 6:53:28 AM PDT by moovova (Yo GOP....we won't forget.)
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To: impimp
I'm waiting for the "COVIDnado" movie to come out...


29 posted on 04/08/2021 6:59:38 AM PDT by moovova (Yo GOP....we won't forget.)
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest
If Israel is so happy with the Pfizer (notta)vaccine, why are they refusing to pay for it...causing Pfizer to stop shipment of 700,000 more doses?

"Pfizer halts corona vaccine shipments to Israel after country fails to pay"

30 posted on 04/08/2021 7:38:22 AM PDT by moovova (Yo GOP....we won't forget.)
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“Refusing to pay” is a ridiculous falsehood.

Israel has a transition government right now and there’s been conflict between Benjamin Netanyahu and Benny Gantz over Netanyahu’s refusal to approve the permanent appointment of a justice minister. Gantz cancelled the meeting that was set to approve payment for an additional 30 million vaccines in retaliation toward Netanyahu and then tried to claim that the Health ministry already had authorization to make the purchase. Pfizer is caught in the middle of this and doesn’t want to provide product at risk while this power struggle plays out, which is their right to do.

But feel free to continue making up stories about Israel not wanting to continue their mass vaccination program. I’m sure it won’t look even more ridiculous when they buy the remaining 30 million doses in the next few days and shipments resume. And if it did, I have no doubt you’d come back and apologize for misspeaking about something you know NOTHING about, right?


31 posted on 04/08/2021 1:08:04 PM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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To: maddog55
"Both the Pfizer-BioNTech and the Moderna COVID-19 “vaccines” use messenger RNA (mRNA). Coronaviruses have a spike-like structure on their surface called an S protein. COVID-19 mRNA “vaccines” give cells instructions for how to make a harmless piece of an S protein. After vaccination, your cells begin making the protein pieces and displaying them on cell surfaces. Your immune system will recognize that the protein doesn’t belong there and begin building an immune response and making antibodies."

You know what? Credit where credit is due. Most people don't have much of an idea of how the mRNA platform works, but this is a pretty decent explanation. So regardless of any disagreement we may have, kudos to you for this description.

32 posted on 04/08/2021 1:17:00 PM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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To: bagster

‘Dude. You’re getting whupped on this thread.’

not really...


33 posted on 04/08/2021 3:07:38 PM PDT by IrishBrigade
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To: IrishBrigade
not really...

Yea, really.

Your champion is defeated.


34 posted on 04/08/2021 3:38:14 PM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest; maddog55
You know what? Credit where credit is due. Most people don't have much of an idea of how the mRNA platform works, but this is a pretty decent explanation. So regardless of any disagreement we may have, kudos to you for this description.

Maddog, you have the approval of the condescending shill and a pat on the head. Congratulations.


35 posted on 04/08/2021 3:40:20 PM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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‘Your champion is defeated.’

my champion; ha ha ha...

you really are funny...


36 posted on 04/08/2021 3:43:08 PM PDT by IrishBrigade
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To: IrishBrigade
you really are funny...

What, do I amuse you?

I'm here to amuse you?


37 posted on 04/08/2021 3:45:47 PM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: bagster

‘I’m here to amuse you?’

what, you mean like a clown...?


38 posted on 04/08/2021 3:54:41 PM PDT by IrishBrigade
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

FYI I’m not an anti-vaxer.

I’ve been pumped with so much crap from the military and government in the many places I had to go including the anthrax crap etc, but this just feels different to me. I still get my flu-shots the pneumonia once every year. Flu shots being a hit or miss anyway depending on which one “they” think will be worse.

I’m skeptical so to speak on this mRNA stuff. Here’s an interesting article as just an FYI that fuels my skepticism.

https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/science-mrna-vaccines-alter-dna/


39 posted on 04/08/2021 3:57:42 PM PDT by maddog55 ((the only thing systemic in America is the left's hatred of it!))
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To: Kozak

Just a few days after the CDC released updated data showing that more than 2,200 deaths of individuals who had received either the Pfizer or Moderna mRNA vaccines had been reported as of Mar. 26

Add that to your total numb nuts.


40 posted on 04/08/2021 4:09:55 PM PDT by maddog55 ((the only thing systemic in America is the left's hatred of it!))
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