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To: ransomnote
VAERS reports only mean that something happened at some point after the person got vaccinated. Grampa is 98 with a history of heart conditions and dies of a heart attack a week and a half after getting a vaccine? It goes into VAERS - by law.

Here’s some quotes from the HHS Guide to Interpreting Data in VAERS:

“When evaluating data from VAERS, it is important to note that for any reported event, no cause-and-effect relationship has been established.”

“VAERS collects data on any adverse event following vaccination, be it coincidental or truly caused by a vaccine. The report of an adverse event to VAERS is not documentation that a vaccine caused the event.”

“VAERS reports can be submitted voluntarily by anyone, including healthcare providers, patients, or family members. Reports vary in quality and completeness. They often lack details and sometimes can have information that contains errors.”

“A report to VAERS generally does not prove that the identified vaccine(s) caused the adverse event described.”

No proof that the event was caused by the vaccine is required in order for VAERS to accept the report.”

https://vaers.hhs.gov/data/dataguide.html

2 posted on 03/27/2021 6:09:08 PM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

Right on time.

Do you work for government agency or a Pharma company??


5 posted on 03/27/2021 6:13:13 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (I'd rather be anecdotally alive than scientifically dead...)
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

So VAERS is not a great tool. But, it's the only tool government has given us. Outside of the military, our government is not exactly reknowned for building incredible tools (remember the obama-care website fiasco). Still, it would be foolish to ignore the only information we are able to glean from the only tool available to us. The wise err on the side of caution. The fools rush in. Choose.


7 posted on 03/27/2021 6:20:41 PM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

Grampa is 98 with a history of heart conditions and dies of a heart attack a week and a half after testing postive for Sars 2 RNA. It is counted as a covid death.


11 posted on 03/27/2021 6:25:02 PM PDT by willfulknowledge
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

So you believe there were no reactions to the other vaccines either, correct?


35 posted on 03/27/2021 7:52:21 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest; Jane Long; Jan_Sobieski; SecAmndmt; Myrddin; bagster
No proof that the event was caused by the vaccine is required in order for VAERS to accept the report.”

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There's also no proof that the event was NOT caused by the vaccine, because no experimental gene therapy rushed to market in 6 months without sufficient testing or FDA approval could possibly have enough evidence to prove anything.

That's why they are rushing to get as many 'shots' in arms as possible before someone halts this awful travesty.

Causal data takes years to accumulate (est. 10 years  of blood, urine, and other bio assessments, extensive human trials to determine long term impacts, etc.). So essentially you are arguing the fact that the mRNA Covid 'vaccines' are not FDA approved, little understood, and insufficiently tested renders them free from any legitimate concern no matter how many people die daily.

Using VAERS event data, 1985 deaths have been reported since adminstration began December 14, 2020. A total of 103 days have elapsed during the administration of the vaccine. Based only on observations recorded in VAERS, an average of 19 deaths per day have been reporte for Covid in VAERS during the entire administration of the Covid 'vaccine' in the U.S.

But since the rule-of-thumb for VAERS data is that only 10% of total events are reported, there has likely been 19,850 actual deaths during this time period which is an average 190 people per day.

But according to  your 'logic', it doesn't matter if 500,000 deaths were reported to VAERS for the COVID vaccine for this time period, which would be a daily average of 4,854.

There would be no proof that the COVID vaccine is NOT responsible for this fantastically exaggerated average number of deaths per day, just as there would be no proof that it is responsible for them. This is why it disgusts me to see you blanket every conversation and thread with your 'talking points'. You intentionally assert a burden of proof based on data you know will be unavailable for 10 years or more.  

If the CDC had wanted to, it could have mandated that the doctor or coroner confirming the death of a patient be required to record it in VAERS. But that would be too much like exposing the vaccine industry's dirty game. The public would have what it needs to make an informed decision and that isn't in the best interests of people like you.

When people grasp at the only data they can find (e.g., VAERS) your kind sneers that the data means NOTHING. You are insisting the public not have a single shred of information no matter how many people collapse and die   - even if they did so within 40 seconds of having the injection, because the experimental 'vaccines' have never been sufficiently studied.

Now that I know how deeply the CDC has betrayed the public with its malevolent manipulation (e.g., withholding effective treatments while people die, lying about masks, immunity, the 'vaccines', knowing use of the  invalid PCR) I believe that the CDC would not hesitate to underreport death totals as there would be no other record of deaths available to the public to compare with. It's the kind of lie with which the CDC has become accustomed.

71 posted on 03/27/2021 10:22:28 PM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

PS: Data entry into VAERS is not entered “by law”. The database permits voluntary data entry performed by a variety of people with or without medical training. There are self-reports in there where people describe what happened to them for various event categories but not for death.


73 posted on 03/27/2021 10:31:31 PM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

“It goes into VAERS - by law.”

BS. There is no law that requires VAERS reporting.

Why the lie, Sunshine??


91 posted on 03/28/2021 7:23:07 AM PDT by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Have!)
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