Posted on 03/27/2021 6:03:35 PM PDT by ransomnote
Edited on 03/27/2021 7:10:23 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]
The rule-of-thumb that I reliably encounter among medical alrticles is that approximately 10% of adverse reactions to vaccines are reported in the CDCs VAERS Database.
Since I often see statistics quoted as if VAERS contains total adverse reactions, instead of the number voluntarily reported in the database, I will try to provide both literal and rule-of-thumb values.
Utilizing this rule of thumb, Friday's VAERS report of approx 1985 deaths likely reflects 19,850 actual deaths in the United States.
VAERS DATA
93 of the 225 vacinnes in VAERS include reported deaths , and of those 93, Moderna and Pfizer top the charts and surely, they are among the newest.
you are sooooooooooooooo confused.
published does not mean it was true.
also, any reports now are premature and underreport
problems. real problems (nanomaterials go to joints,
the cornea, brain, and cause REAL problems), oncogenic,
autoimmune, secondary infections, hyperimmune problems,
endocrine changes, and unanticipated problems
will show up later - they always do.
the ONLY thing that was saved was thousands of mice,
and a smaller cohort that should have been tested first
for these DNA operating systems designed by the CCP
and then copied FROM THE TEXT by the over eager drug
companies.
and your quoting data from a month earlier
by proVAXers is nonsense.
“ skewed heavily toward those over 59.
Who are obese
Who use zinc depleting medications
Who have insufficient vitamin D levels
Who are frail
Who were killed by Cuomo or Witmer or Wolfe
Published scientific studies can't be trusted, but random statements thrown out on conspiracy blogs are to be taken as gospel? That seems backwards to me.
"nanomaterials go to joints, the cornea, brain, and cause REAL problems"
Lipids cause real problems? That's an interesting idea.
"oncogenic, autoimmune, secondary infections, hyperimmune problems, endocrine changes, and unanticipated problems will show up later - they always do."
So you're saying you have no evidence that there's any problems, but you're certain they'll come up later? Based on what? How much later? Half-life on mRNA is 10 hours, so it's gone a week after the shot. First doses were given over a year ago. When are they going to have all these problems?
"the ONLY thing that was saved was thousands of mice"
Pfizer and Moderna didn't do their animal studies on mice.
"DNA operating systems"
They neither use DNA, nor do they interact with DNA in any way.
"designed by the CCP and then copied FROM THE TEXT by the over eager drug companies."
That's the most absurd statement yet. Do you have any idea how many text messages it would take to transmit all the technical data required to construct a lipid shell and custom build messenger RNA, then get the mRNA encapsulated within the lipid shell, then stabilize it for suspension in a medium for injection?
You'd be typing out text messages for the next 10 years trying to get all that data across. It's about the most inefficient, ineffective way possible to transmit that kind of data. And you have zero evidence of any of this. Pfizer and Moderna and Johnson & Johnson each independently worked on their vaccines. President Trump selected the most promising vaccine candidates to receive Operation Warp Speed funding based on where they were in the spring and summer last year. This one is just plain silly.
“VAERS is an open source database completely open to the public. It’s practically useless as a data source.”
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Individual reports can serve as leads. It has the potential to serve as early warning of any developing problems. But it clearly can be subject to misinterpretation.
It’s not an error in VAERS. VAERS is a passive reporting system. It’s designed that way. The purpose of VAERS is not for the general public to browse the reports and jump to conclusions. The purpose is for researchers to be able to identify patterns to locate rare unexpected adverse reactions.
The idea is for people who know how to properly apply statistical models to do so and locate outliers in the data which merit further investigation. Simply pointing out “there are x number of reports of adverse event y in VAERS” to claim a particular vaccine is causing that event is a complete misuse of VAERS. And that’s directly from the creators of VAERS.
Further, the FDA and other independent researchers are absolutely performing the analysis. And they’re providing that information. Where do you think black box warnings on medicines come from? VAERS is one source; indirectly. As for the COVID-19 vaccines, early on there was an unexpectedly high anaphylactic reaction observed (about 1 in 90,000 for Pfizer, 1 in 400,000 for Moderna). This was quickly identified, data published, new protocols (e.g. the 15 minute waiting period post shot) established, and new guidelines issues about who should and shouldn’t get those shots.
VAERS is doing its job, but its job is not to be a clearing house for the public to see the full individual investigation of each report. That would require a lot more work to build and maintain, which means a much larger budget, staff, etc. What exists today is a passive reporting system designed to enable the FDA and independent researchers to perform broad statistical analysis against very noisy data. It’s simply being misused in some cases to scare people about vaccines.
This. 100% this.
It has the potential to serve as early warning of any developing problems. But it clearly can be subject to misinterpretation.
Ahh....just like the CDC.
No, wait....CDC has actually been caught lying.
Why didn’t President Trump take the Trump vaccines?
Yeah people talk like VARES is full of bad info but that’s not the case. Studies are done using VARES reports. In addition;
“Warning: Knowingly filing a false VAERS report with the intent to mislead the Department of Health and Human Services is a violation of Federal law (18 U.S. Code § 1001) punishable by fine and imprisonment.”
https://vaers.hhs.gov/esub/index.jsp
“Healthcare providers are required by law to report to VAERS:” https://vaers.hhs.gov/reportevent.html
| Total | 4,972 | 143.41% | |
|---|---|---|---|
| DEATH | Total | 4,972 | 143.41% |
| DEATH | COVID19 VACCINE (COVID19) | 1,684 | 48.57% |
| DEATH | PNEUMOCOCCAL, 13-VALENT VACCINE (PREVNAR) (PNC13) | 314 | 9.06% |
| DEATH | HAEMOPHILUS B CONJUGATE VACCINE (HIBV) | 252 | 7.27% |
| DEATH | ROTAVIRUS VACCINE, LIVE, ORAL, PENTAVALENT (RV5) | 248 | 7.15% |
| DEATH | INFLUENZA VIRUS VACCINE, TRIVALENT (INJECTED) (FLU3(SEASONAL)) | 210 | 6.06% |
| DEATH | DIPHTHERIA AND TETANUS TOXOIDS AND ACELLULAR PERTUSSIS VACCINE + HEPATITIS B + INACTIVATED POLIOVIRUS VACCINE (DTAPHEPBIP) | 199 | 5.74% |
| DEATH | INFLUENZA VIRUS VACCINE, NO BRAND NAME (FLUX(SEASONAL)) | 182 | 5.25% |
| DEATH | PNEUMOCOCCAL, 7-VALENT VACCINE (PREVNAR) (PNC) | 171 | 4.93% |
| DEATH | ZOSTER VACCINE (VARZOS) | 168 | 4.85% |
| DEATH | HEPATITIS B VACCINE (HEP) | 168 | 4.85% |
| DEATH | Total | 2,203 | 122.80% |
|---|---|---|---|
| Total | 2,203 | 122.80% | |
| DEATH | COVID19 VACCINE (COVID19) | 1,521 | 84.78% |
| DEATH | PNEUMOCOCCAL, 13-VALENT VACCINE (PREVNAR) (PNC13) | 119 | 6.63% |
| DEATH | HAEMOPHILUS B CONJUGATE VACCINE (HIBV) | 64 | 3.57% |
| DEATH | ROTAVIRUS VACCINE, LIVE, ORAL, PENTAVALENT (RV5) | 64 | 3.57% |
| DEATH | DIPHTHERIA AND TETANUS TOXOIDS AND ACELLULAR PERTUSSIS VACCINE + HEPATITIS B + INACTIVATED POLIOVIRUS VACCINE (DTAPHEPBIP) | 59 | 3.29% |
| DEATH | INFLUENZA VIRUS VACCINE, QUADRIVALENT (INJECTED) (FLU4(SEASONAL)) | 55 | 3.07% |
| DEATH | ZOSTER VACCINE (VARZOS) | 47 | 2.62% |
| DEATH | DIPHTHERIA AND TETANUS TOXOIDS AND ACELLULAR PERTUSSIS VACCINE + INACTIVATED POLIOVIRUS VACCINE + HAEMOPHILUS B CONJUGATE VACCINE (DTAPIPVHIB) | 42 | 2.34% |
| DEATH | HEPATITIS B VACCINE (HEP) | 38 | 2.12% |
| DEATH | UNKNOWN VACCINES (UNK) | 33 | 1.84% |
| DEATH | ROTAVIRUS VACCINE, LIVE, ORAL (RV1) | 23 | 1.28% |
| DEATH | DIPHTHERIA AND TETANUS TOXOIDS AND ACELLULAR PERTUSSIS VACCINE (DTAP) | 20 | 1.11% |
| DEATH | INFLUENZA VIRUS VACCINE, TRIVALENT (INJECTED) (FLU3(SEASONAL)) | 18 | 1.00% |
| DEATH | PNEUMOCOCCAL VACCINE, POLYVALENT (PPV) | 15 | 0.84% |
| DEATH | HEPATITIS A (HEPA) | 14 | 0.78% |
| DEATH | TETANUS AND DIPHTHERIA TOXOIDS AND ACELLULAR PERTUSSIS VACCINE (BOOSTRIX/ADACEL) (TDAP) | 9 | 0.50% |
| DEATH | MEASLES, MUMPS AND RUBELLA VIRUS VACCINE, LIVE (MMR) | 8 | 0.45% |
| DEATH | VARIVAX-VARICELLA VIRUS LIVE (VARCEL) | 7 | 0.39% |
| DEATH | POLIOVIRUS VACCINE INACTIVATED (IPV) | 6 | 0.33% |
| DEATH | INFLUENZA VIRUS VACCINE, NO BRAND NAME (FLUX(SEASONAL)) | 5 | 0.28% |
| DEATH | HUMAN PAPILLOMAVIRUS VACCINE (HPVX) | 4 | 0.22% |
| DEATH | INFLUENZA VIRUS VACCINE, TRIVALENT, ADJUVANT (INJECTED) (FLUA3(SEASONAL)) | 4 | 0.22% |
| DEATH | MEASLES, MUMPS, RUBELLA, AND VARICELLA VACCINE (PROQUAD) (MMRV) | 4 | 0.22% |
| DEATH | INFLUENZA VIRUS VACCINE, QUADRIVALENT, CELL-CULTURE-DERIVED (INJECTED) (FLUC4(SEASONAL)) | 3 | 0.17% |
| DEATH | HUMAN PAPILLOMAVIRUS (TYPES 6, 11,16, 18, 31, 33, 45, 52, 58) RECOMBINANT VACCINE (HPV9) | 3 | 0.17% |
| DEATH | MENINGOCOCCAL VACCINE (MENACTRA) (MNQ) | 3 | 0.17% |
| DEATH | INFLUENZA VIRUS VACCINE, QUADRIVALENT, RECOMBINANT (INJECTED) (FLUR4(SEASONAL)) | 2 | 0.11% |
| DEATH | DIPHTHERIA AND TETANUS TOXOIDS AND ACELLULAR PERTUSSIS VACCINE + INACTIVATED POLIOVIRUS VACCINE (DTAPIPV) | 2 | 0.11% |
| DEATH | ANTHRAX VACCINE (ANTH) | 2 | 0.11% |
| DEATH | HUMAN PAPILLOMAVIRUS (TYPES 6, 11, 16, 18) RECOMBINANT VACCINE (HPV4) | 2 | 0.11% |
| DEATH | PNEUMOCOCCAL, 7-VALENT VACCINE (PREVNAR) (PNC) | 1 | 0.06% |
| DEATH | ROTAVIRUS (NO BRAND NAME) (RVX) | 1 | 0.06% |
| DEATH | INFLUENZA VIRUS VACCINE, QUADRIVALENT, ADJUVANT (INJECTED) (FLUA4(SEASONAL)) | 1 | 0.06% |
| DEATH | SMALLPOX VACCINE (SMALL) | 1 | 0.06% |
| DEATH | MENINGOCOCCAL B VACCINE (MENB) | 1 | 0.06% |
| DEATH | TYPHOID VACCINE (TYP) | 1 | 0.06% |
| DEATH | TETANUS AND DIPHTHERIA TOXOIDS, ADULT (TD) | 1 | 0.06% |
Because he had the virus itself?
So you believe there were no reactions to the other vaccines either, correct?
They are still recommending people take the vaccine even if they had the virus. But I wanted 2aProtectsTheRest to answer.
Read posts 31,32,33.
Oh. Sorry.
They also say the vaccine won’t necessarily immunize you either. So, does that mean that if you get the virus and recover you should take the vaccine and then take the vaccine again? Ad nauseum?
I don’t know, I do know I’m not taking any covid vaccine.
I’m not either. I’m not worried about the vaccine but I don’t need it.
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