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Bitcoin Will Save Our Earth
Bitcoin Magazine ^ | 3-25-21 | Evan Bayless

Posted on 03/26/2021 7:34:50 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion

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To: Susquehanna Patriot
Bottom line, without the existence government issued currencies, bitcoin really has “no value”.

I've thought about that statement and disagree to some degree.

US dollars (here) are simply how we price tangible things when we buy or sell. It is a yardstick. It occupies our brains as the touchstone of valuation. Will it always be that way?

Historically, when currencies implode, people begin to store wealth in other things - gold and silver, art, etc.

To access the banking system in this world - for now - you need to convert from crypto to your country currency.

Will the day come crypto stands alone with direct transfer to another's mobile phone? The technology is already there. It is just not widely deployed.

I think we are in a transition phase. It won't be a smooth line.

21 posted on 03/26/2021 8:17:28 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (I'd rather be anecdotally alive than scientifically dead...)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

“Except in other countries where it is priced in the world’s major currencies.”

I did not mean to imply that its value is only in dollars. It is valued in currency.

“And that should be asked of the banking system too then..”

I am not aware of any bank or credit system saying that the more energy they consume on a transaction, the more secure, the more final (i.e. safe) that transaction becomes. If your point is that such electronic transactions consume (mega) energy, that is another question.


22 posted on 03/26/2021 8:19:46 AM PDT by Susquehanna Patriot ( )
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

I don’t disagree that bitcoin can be valued in other “forms of currency” like silver and gold, or copper or bales of cotton. The reality is that bitcoin ties itself to currency. Don’t forget the utility value of currency. It’s hard to move bales of cotton to get a haircut and then get change in bitcoin.

Besides, what is the probability that all currencies will implode at the same time? Unless bitcoin can be held and transacted easily by billions of people before a currency implosion, a person with bitcoin “wealth” has nowhere to transact very easily. In fact, the energy needed to transact might not be available in the place where the currency imploded.


23 posted on 03/26/2021 8:30:15 AM PDT by Susquehanna Patriot ( )
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To: Truthoverpower

I think the root of all evil is rather the lust for wealth. The future of money is destined to be merely a bookeeping entry in your account at the Data Bank and your pocket money will just be smoke rings
in your concious mind and the sleeping nightmares about it running out.

According to Strongs Dictionary the definition of money as Avarice in 1 Timothy 6 10-
Avarice “An inordinate desire of gaining and possessing wealth; covetousness; cupidity; greediness, or insatiable desire of gain. “

“The US seems to be getting serious about a central-bank-backed digital currency when the Treasury Secretary and Federal Reserve Chairman hinted this week that a digital dollar is a high-priority project for the US.”
https://techhq.com/2021/03/digital-dollar-is-now-a-high-priority-project-for-the-us/


24 posted on 03/26/2021 8:31:12 AM PDT by Rock N Jones (1935)
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To: Susquehanna Patriot
I am not aware of any bank or credit system saying that the more energy they consume on a transaction, the more secure, the more final (i.e. safe) that transaction becomes.

Nor I...

But everything they do takes energy -buildings, computer systems, security.

25 posted on 03/26/2021 8:36:29 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (I'd rather be anecdotally alive than scientifically dead...)
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To: SaxxonWoods

How is that going to happen?


26 posted on 03/26/2021 8:37:22 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: Rock N Jones
I think you’re right.

“The US seems to be getting serious about a central-bank-backed digital currency when the Treasury Secretary and Federal Reserve Chairman hinted this week that a digital dollar is a high-priority project for the US.”

So what’s different?

Actual cryptocurrencies are distributed ledger systems (DLs). They are independent of centralized authority except for the ecosystem’s initial developers and maintainers. The market and users have the final say, unlike what we have now with central government and banking.

Distributed ledger technology eliminates much of what we need government and banks for, and obviously why TPTB fears it.

27 posted on 03/26/2021 9:03:35 AM PDT by amorphous
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

...and it will cure the common cold.....


28 posted on 03/26/2021 9:06:03 AM PDT by wny ( s)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

29 posted on 03/26/2021 9:12:31 AM PDT by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic...)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

“Bitcoin is the only system which solves this problem at scale without a trusted third party, and energy usage is the key component of that solution.”

When Bitcoin maximalists say things like this they tend to forget about all the other cryptocurrencies out there.

And this part isn’t true (think of all the proof of stake coins out there). Nano provides finality and decentralization with no fees and the proof of work required for their system is extremely tiny compared to bitcoin. The challenge with Nano is that a currency that is free to transact is easily spammed, but the latest round of countermeasures being deployed in Nano should render spam attacks ineffective. (Look up “Time as a Currency/P4Q” on Nano forums if curious.)


30 posted on 03/26/2021 9:24:12 AM PDT by EnderWiggin1970
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To: SaxxonWoods

“Bitcoin will be under the control of governments soon and all the fun will be over.”

Please explain how that will happen. Have to ROFL every time someone says this with no grasp of how it works.


31 posted on 03/26/2021 9:25:23 AM PDT by EnderWiggin1970
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To: EnderWiggin1970
“Bitcoin is the only [first] system which solves this problem at scale without a trusted third party, and energy usage is the key component of that solution.”
32 posted on 03/26/2021 9:26:49 AM PDT by amorphous
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
Related:

Absurd NFT PRices Expose a Global Financial House of Cards

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2021-03-26/absurd-nft-prices-expose-global-financial-house-cards

33 posted on 03/26/2021 9:28:03 AM PDT by amorphous
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

34 posted on 03/26/2021 9:32:37 AM PDT by amorphous
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

And Y2K will ki.us all.


35 posted on 03/26/2021 10:57:04 AM PDT by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes.)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Mmmm no. For one thing this article is ignoring how much electricity “mining” takes. Plus the general internet electricity which bitcoin can’t function without. There’s no way it uses less electric than the other forms of digital money (debit cards, EFT, etc). So at best it’s a net zero.


36 posted on 03/26/2021 11:01:57 AM PDT by discostu (Like a dog being shown a card trick )
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To: discostu
seems to me like Bitcoin is the ultimate self licking ice cream cone...


37 posted on 03/26/2021 11:06:28 AM PDT by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic...)
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To: PIF

And China’s CCP loves bitcoin to the tune of creating 80% of the world’s bitcoin”

source?


38 posted on 03/26/2021 11:23:44 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: ScubaDiver

However, this author slays some ENORMOUS straw men to quiet crypto critics.”

Elaborate if you could? Not trying to be argumentative...just want to know what your’re referring to. Many thanks.


39 posted on 03/26/2021 11:30:20 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: Susquehanna Patriot

Bottom line, without the existence government issued currencies, bitcoin really has “no value”.”

Certainly much of its value comes from the fact that it is scarce (limited in supply) and government money isn’t. If we know anything from 2020, it’s that government will print as much money as it feels like.


40 posted on 03/26/2021 11:33:44 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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