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1 posted on 03/25/2021 1:49:53 PM PDT by ransomnote
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“According to the CDC, no isolated samples of the Covid-19 virus exist. The image below cites a July 2020 document but researchers continue to say their requests for isolated samples are denied because they are “unavailable”. This limitation probably harms the race to develop drug treatments, leaving the field open to vaccine makers....”
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The above is NOT TRUE.

The disease named COVID-19 is caused by the virus given the name SARS-CoV-2. And the CDC has, in fact, long since ISOLATED the SARS-CoV-2 virus in the laboratory and routinely makes it readily available for research by the scientific and medical community.

Here is the timeline for those efforts:

1. On January 20, 2020, CDC received a clinical specimen collected from the first reported U.S. patient infected with SARS-CoV-2. CDC immediately placed the specimen into cell culture to grow a sufficient amount of virus for study.

2. On February 2, 2020, CDC generated enough SARS-CoV-2 grown in cell culture to distribute to medical and scientific researchers.

3. On February 4, 2020, CDC shipped SARS-CoV-2 to the BEI Resources Repository.

Here is a link with supporting information on the isolation of the virus that causes COVID-19.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/lab/grows-virus-cell-culture.html


2 posted on 03/25/2021 1:54:25 PM PDT by House Atreides
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Can you restate how you think vaccine development companies created a vaccine without an isolated virus?


3 posted on 03/25/2021 1:57:02 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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Not just fake news, but old fake news.

There’s plenty of cases of isolated SARS-CoV-2. It’s been imaged (”photographed”) with scanning and transmission electron microscopes. So yes, it’s real.

And the mRNA vaccines only need the gene sequence for the part of the virus that causes an immune response. With that part identified and the correct sequence, they can begin churning out mRNA that matches it, then package it up and create doses.

There are over 200 different vaccine candidates in various stages of trials and development and many of them use attenuated or inactivated SARS-CoV-2 virions. So yes, the virus is real. Yes, the vaccines are real. Yes, birds are real. And yes, the Earth is round.


5 posted on 03/25/2021 1:58:48 PM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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Heck...apparently all you have to do is grab someone off the street that’s hacking and sneezing.

Or, anybody not wearing a masque, according to Little Man Fauci.

Or may’ve visit an old folks home in NY.

Voila! An isolated sample of the COVID.


11 posted on 03/25/2021 2:15:12 PM PDT by moovova (Yo GOP....we won't forget.)
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Part of the question is ‘what are you calling an isolated sample’?

Producing a brick of the stuff has limited usefulness, and a great deal of expense.


19 posted on 03/25/2021 2:31:02 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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ransomnote wrote: “According to the CDC, no isolated samples of the Covid-19 virus exist. The image below cites a July 2020 document but researchers continue to say their requests for isolated samples are denied because they are “unavailable”. This limitation probably harms the race to develop drug treatments, leaving the field open to vaccine makers.”

Simply incorrect and misleading information which is par for the course from the anti-vaxxer cult members:

“Social media users have claimed that a document from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) admits that the SARS-CoV-2 virus, which is the name for the novel coronavirus, does not exist. While the document is authentic, the scientific process described within it has been misrepresented.”

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-cdc/fact-check-this-cdc-document-does-not-say-that-that-sars-cov-2-doesnt-exist-idUSKBN27633R

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Dr Thushan de Silva, from the University of Sheffield’s Department of Infection, Immunity and Cardiovascular Disease, told Reuters that this was not correct.

De Silva said that the document is describing what was used to determine the lowest amount of viral genetic material the RT-PCR assay could detect.

“They describe a very common process during assay set up, where the limit of detection of the RT-PCR assay was determined”, he said.

In this case, the CDC have used ‘transcribed’ RNA as the positive control - which means they used synthetically produced genetic material identical to that carried by the virus.

“To calculate the limit of detection of an RT-PCR assay, you need to have a known quantity of virus to extract genetic material (RNA) from, or alternatively a known quantity of RNA identical to that carried by the virus ”, de Silva said.

According to de Silva, one reason for using transcribed RNA would have been that at the time of set up, not many standardised and quantified viral stocks would have been available to extract viral RNA from.

De Silva maintains that using transcribed RNA rather than RNA extracted from quantified viral stocks is no reason to question the existence of SARS-CoV-2.

“There are now hundreds of stocks of cultured SARS-CoV-2 in laboratories around the world”, he said.


25 posted on 03/25/2021 2:54:14 PM PDT by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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The freep vaxx squad always has much to say.


27 posted on 03/25/2021 3:11:44 PM PDT by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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Every so often there is still found a vial of variola (Smallpox), usually when an old clinic is being torn down.

Wonder why no corona virus is available.


42 posted on 03/25/2021 4:28:42 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar ((Democrats have declared us to be THE OBSOLETE MAN in the Twilight Zone.))
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Was a vaccine ever developed for SARS-COV-1?


69 posted on 03/26/2021 10:34:46 AM PDT by thecodont
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The CDC only made a cell culture of ONE PATIENT, its a mix of many biological materials, not purified, ie never did a density gradient, its not a biologic isolation. BEI Resources sells many Sars Cov 2 so-called isolates, but they are unpurified cell cultures (I asked them, did you?). Neither Metagenomic study nor EM photos tells you what is really in a mix of soup.

The first case was ONE PATIENT from Wuhan, whose lung wash had a metagenome analysis. This is based on a few primers referencing a data base filling in most of the rest of the genome from a computer generated database RNA sequence, easily fudged, and sent to a gene bank that day with a lengthy complex paper by Zhang et al sent for publication in 2 days (really?) to Nature. Metagenomics are only supposed to be done only on well-characterized organisms, and the NOVEL corona virus is not one of these.

This gene accession number was then used as the template for the PCR (see FDA pcr manual that stated no isolates were available), and the Pfizer etc vaccines (see on line FOIA requests stating the vax was not based on the RNA of an isolated virus from a living patient). See, the head of the China CDC also said the problem is the virus has never been isolated.

So the test finds the same genome its based on, because thats how its programmed. Now, lets just vax 8 bil people based on this baseless data with mRNA made to a spike protein the computer made up, just coincidentlly also maps to a placenta protein.

There cant be an isolate to find or purify because then the whole narrative of the virus and later mutations, PCR, and Vaxes, would fall apart. Thats why there are many papers doing cell culture, metagenomic or PCR testing, and EM photos but NO DENSITY GRADIENT purification. Do you get whats happening?

93 posted on 04/18/2021 9:57:16 AM PDT by Magic Bullet (ransomnote on isolation)
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