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The CDC Says No Isolated Samples of the Covid-19 Virus Are Available. The Development of Covid-19 Vaccines Based
3/25/2021 | Vanity

Posted on 03/25/2021 1:49:53 PM PDT by ransomnote

 
According to the CDC, no isolated samples of the Covid-19 virus exist. The image below cites a July 2020 document but researchers continue to say their requests for isolated samples are denied because they are "unavailable". This limitation probably harms the race to develop drug treatments, leaving the field open to vaccine makers.

I've been wondering how the vaccine developers are creating their mRNA for Covid-19 if they don't have isolated samples. Perhaps the quote from the article below answers my question.

The tiny tweak behind COVID-19 vaccines
cen.acs.org ^ | SEPTEMBER 29, 2020 | Ryan Cross

"On Jan. 10, Chinese scientists uploaded the genetic sequence of a novel coronavirus, later named SARS-CoV-2, to an open-access website, GenBank.

SNIP

A few hours later, Barney Graham woke up and saw the sequence. Though it was a Saturday, he got right to work.

Days before, his lab at the US National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) had partnered with the biotech company Moderna to design an experimental vaccine for the virus, which causes the disease COVID-19. All they’d needed to start was that sequence."

I wonder if China uploaded the  genome to the biowarfare agent (Covid-19 virus) they released in order to help us develop a vaccine to protect ourselves from it. 

Personally I believe that China's biowarfare agent is likely the combination of  both the Covid-19 virus and the vaccines being created based on the genetic sequence they gave us.

Both the SARS-CoV-2 and vaccine mRNA have access to the reverse transcriptase enzyme, both of them can ‘upload’ their genetic sequence to the DNA (Modify the DNA to include their own images.

COVID-19 News: Harvard And MIT Study Alarmingly Shows That SARS-CoV-2 RNA Integrates Into Human Genome With Varying Implications

I think China may have outsourced biowarfare. I have wondered about some of the mRNA trials in the US leading up to the planned-demic.



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KEYWORDS: covid19; credibilitylost; disgracedposter; nutcase; qtards
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To: metmom; Just mythoughts
The noob has been shilling for them since sign up.

Definitely an embed.


41 posted on 03/25/2021 4:24:32 PM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: ransomnote

Every so often there is still found a vial of variola (Smallpox), usually when an old clinic is being torn down.

Wonder why no corona virus is available.


42 posted on 03/25/2021 4:28:42 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar ((Democrats have declared us to be THE OBSOLETE MAN in the Twilight Zone.))
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To: Just mythoughts

“Care to provide the literal evidence the Chinese supplied anyone a sample of the initial virus, unleashed in 2019?”
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The Chinese provided the world with plenty of samples in January 2020 when they shut down ALL modes (including air travel) of DOMESTIC travel out of Wuhan to destinations elsewhere in China BUT LEFT INTERNATIONAL FLIGHTS LEAVING WUHAN FOR FOREIGN LOCATIONS CONTINUE. The samples were incubating in the bodies of the Chinese flying out to their foreign destinations. Surprise!

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-00262-7

“...A lab in Australia announced on 28 January that it had obtained virus samples from an infected person who had returned from China. The team was preparing to share the samples with other scientists. Labs in France, Germany and Hong Kong are also isolating and preparing to share virus samples they obtained from local patients, says Bart Haagmans, a virologist at Erasmus Medical Center in Rotterdam, the Netherlands. “Probably next week we will get isolates from one of the different labs,” he says....”


43 posted on 03/25/2021 4:32:45 PM PDT by House Atreides
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar; ransomnote
Wonder why no corona virus is available.

Cause if it was, somebody might find out its a manufactured bio-weapon.

And someone else might make a real vaccine.

The derps need to keep the rona 'in-house', behind the derp state walls. So apparently they create a 'synthetic' version of the real virus, likely after removing the incriminating parts, and dopey Americans not in on the act go about their business.

And brilliant but naive FReeper vaxxer geniuses can expound on their expertise and tell us all there's nothing to see here, and to take our shots like good little troopers. China has deemed it so. They can't have their weapon get into the wrong hands.

And we real people must hush and eat our mush and don't scare the kids.

#KeepingALidOnThings

#Containment


44 posted on 03/25/2021 4:40:16 PM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: House Atreides
How funny, Harkonnen.

You and I seem to represent two distinct parallel realities.

You know, only one of us can be right, right?


45 posted on 03/25/2021 4:45:54 PM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: ransomnote

https://qz.com/1820422/coronavirus-why-wont-who-use-the-name-sars-cov-2/


46 posted on 03/25/2021 5:23:30 PM PDT by Chode (Ashli Babbitt - #SayHerNAME)
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To: bagster; Ruy Dias de Bivar
Bagster, sorry this is so long.

To: Ruy Dias de Bivar; ransomnote

Wonder why no corona virus is available.

Cause if it was, somebody might find out its a manufactured bio-weapon.

And someone else might make a real vaccine.

The derps need to keep the rona 'in-house', behind the derp state walls. So apparently they create a 'synthetic' version of the real virus, likely after removing the incriminating parts, and dopey Americans not in on the act go about their business.

And brilliant but naive FReeper vaxxer geniuses can expound on their expertise and tell us all there's nothing to see here, and to take our shots like good little troopers. China has deemed it so. They can't have their weapon get into the wrong hands.

And we real people must hush and eat our mush and don't scare the kids.

#KeepingALidOnThings

#Containment

44 posted on 3/25/2021, 4:40:16 PM by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)

Bagster, I think you're right.

After developing a bio-weapon to use against us, the Chinese would never give us a sample of the virus. 

I also don't believe the Chinese would give us the accurate genome for the virus.

If viral samples were ever given to researchers in the US, the isolated samples likely contained an earlier, more 'user friendly' version of the virus before they added key alterations (some weaponization we'd need to know about) to the final product. The genome they released, and which the vaccine developers based their work upon would match the user friendly version while China kept the authentic samples of Covid-19 for itself.
 
This shell game is probably what the virologists and other researchers are trying to point to with their taunting "it doesn't exist". 

China may have also provided state-of-the-art images, data, and other 'helpful' information like a press packet to smoothe over any impression they are conducting biowarfare against us.

I now believe their biowarfare strategy is comprised of at least two parts, the virus and the complementary vaccine(s). 

The CCP infiltrated Pfizer and AstraZeneca, but other companies could be infiltrated by spies for China too, they just weren't caught and weren't formally CCP (e.g., Americans - see Dianne Fienstein and Swallwell for reference).  Moderna developed its vaccine in collaboration with Anthony Fauci's division at the NIH. So China has theoretically had control of 'vaccine' development and information releases about development efforts/results, and reported 'safety'.

Some timing issues and the EUA still in place on the original mRNA technology (invented 2005) that Covid-19 developers decided to use makes me suspect some or all of those original trials were privately used by China to (surreptitiously) test their bio-agent(s) on the public. It's possible a large portion of the development of the base technology of Covid-19 virus was actually created in the US under the auspices of developing vaccines for HIV (the original purpose of the technology). Note the Covid-19 contains fragments of HIV.

I also think the Planned-demic was supposed to happen in 2016 (she wasn’t supposed to lose) and the vaccine was going to be called Covid-16. At that point Hillary would make acceptance of the Emergency Use Authorization of the Covid-16 ‘vaccines’ mandatory. But she lost.

There are supposedly some trials in 2017 (or were there?)  that none of the researchers/doctors I followed were aware of. Those experts always said that as of 2020, the original mRNA technology that Covid-19 was based on had never vaccinated a single person because they never got past the animal trials in 2005 and 2015. I theorize that they expected Hillary to mandate the use of the “vaccines” regardless of the record of failure the vaccine actually had to date.

But President Trump won and they didn’t think he would support their plans to mandate failed ‘vaccines’,which I think originated from Wuhan. They had an optics problem. What if they couldn’t get rid of Trump? They had to plan to get the public to take the vaccine without a mandate from the President. I think that may be why trials took place (or did they?) in 2017, meant to soften the resume of the failed technology. Now they could claim animals had lived through the trials and I understand there were some human trials. They never went through FDA approval, even to date. Now they were ready to roll even without Hillary.

To make sure they could maintain their Emergency Use Authorization, they planned in advance to deny all other treatments, because EAU requires that no other safer treatments are available.

When the Planned-demic first started, I recall watching (tragic) footage of a Chinese woman standing on a street corner and collapsing, purportedly from Covid-19. I have no idea if they injected her with drugs or something; it seemed like they wanted to start an Ebola-like panic to drive acceptance of a vaccine.

I recall saying then that whatever bio-warfare agent Wuhan had released, China would not have released it if they didn't already have the 'antidote'  or antiviral for it. You don't use bio weapon that could harm your own people. I also recall reports, some from Chinese researchers who noted that the virus was less harmful to Asians, and those reports were vigorously scrubbed and denied. Wonder if excerpts of those articles exist on FR?

Since I now believe that China's bio warfare agent is comprised of both the virus and the vaccine, I theorize that when Covid-19 was first deployed, China was likely already in possession of the vaccines that Fauci/Moderna/AstraZeneca/ pretended to create 4+ years later in  2020.

This could explain how the vaccine companies were able to perform the ‘unprecedented’ feat of developing the vaccine(s) in "record time" (6 months), intentionally using an inaccurate PCR, when the process usually requires years of development, and the selection of accurate methods.

I no longer believe the trials are accurate or the vaccines are safe/effective. I now am skeptical that they even went through the motions of creating a vaccine using ‘user friendly’ version of Covid, because they didn’t have enough time, they already had the ‘vaccine’s and could use the billions in funding elsewhere, and they knew their use of the PCR renders results that are, by definition, impossible. We are watching a show.

President Trump still emphasizes the seemingly miraculous delivery of the vaccines in 6 months when the process has always taken years. He said it over and over again.   Again, we are watching a show.”Bigger than you could imagine.”

47 posted on 03/25/2021 5:56:00 PM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: ransomnote
Bagster, sorry this is so long.

I have no problem with length (that's what she said) as long as there are bite-sized paragraphs.

Bagster, I think you're right.

When am I not? : )

I agree with the vast majority of your theory. Thanks for fleshing out my thought and showing how it may be correct and would work in the real world. I just had that thought (about the heathens submitting bogus rona information) as a result of looking at mounds of information and watching the fights between us (goods) and the docile vaxxers (bads).

How often has it happened over the past three and a half years that we sift through mountains of information, both 'crazy' and non-crazy, right and wrong, when one thing triggers a mechanism in our brain that brings it all together (the miracle of Q)?

The ONLY fly in the ointment for me is this. If the heathens wanted to drop a bio weapon on us (they did), why not make it andromeda strain or captain trips or the walking dead one.

I have some theories about that. Wanna hear 'em, here they go.

They needed, like you say, to have the cure on hand so they would survive the event. No use killing the world if you die too. And, as you've said elsewhere, perhaps total annihilation wasn't the goal. Perhaps a more long term 'final solution' was.

They had already used the event to take power in America (fake president Biden). But what about those pesky gweilo? Americans had, in the past, shown a propensity for independence.

Reproduction was the answer. Just let the round eye die out and become extinct, and voila.

Okay, those are my initial thoughts after reading your post. I will ponder more. A whole new frontier for the expansion of the Chinese virus (the people, not the disease) and an end to any meaningful opposition.

Thanks for the looooooooooooooooooong post. Haha.

p.s. I wonder what the vaxxers would think of our theory, if they even read it? Pretty sure I already know. 'There goes that crazy Bagster and Ransomnote again'. Too bad.

Will America go down arguing about Vitamin D?

Expand your thinking.
Q


48 posted on 03/25/2021 10:42:16 PM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: House Atreides

If it’s not true then please explain where the cov-2 virus came from?
China sends us the info on this virus but not where and how it originated.
Please explain Anthony Faucis funded Gain Of Function Research please,you know the research that was banned in the U.S. but Mr. Fauci decided he was special and didn’t listen,so he partners with Peter Daszak,goes to the Wuhan lab in China with 3.7 million bucks and continues the highly dangerous research,then a miracle happens,unknown virus leaks from Wuhan lab in CHINA,and no one can tell you how it originated in that lab?
I could understand why no one,no one, no one has asked Fauci about his Frankenstein Gain Of Function research.
Mysterious isnt it,now this article that shows no one is giving origin of this


49 posted on 03/26/2021 4:36:44 AM PDT by ballplayer
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

It’s real,where the hell did it come from,that’s the freaking question,have you heard anyone ask Fauci about his Gain Of Function Research at the Wuhan Lab?


50 posted on 03/26/2021 4:43:26 AM PDT by ballplayer
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To: ransomnote

“ I don’t feel bad about not having proof because the CDC and the vaccine manufacturers are definitely lying about so much, they really can’t expect me to take their word for it.”

I don’t feel bad that you don’t feel bad. Because if we think someone or some group is lying, we don’t need any of that silly old proof.
Because they’re liars.

Sums it all up.......


51 posted on 03/26/2021 4:45:39 AM PDT by David Chase
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To: bagster

bagster wrote: “There have been whispers around the FR popsicle stand that your mom’s a vaxxer cult member.”

Hard to say. My mom died in 1998.


52 posted on 03/26/2021 4:53:36 AM PDT by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: David Chase; ransomnote

You are using classic disruption techniques.

On several threads.

Sod off troll.


53 posted on 03/26/2021 8:58:53 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers

No.

A troll is someone QTards disagree with or someone who doesn’t buy into their kookiness.

I used a direct quote from Ransomnote.

I commented on it.
No profanity.
No name calling (like you do).

That’s the definition of what everyone does here. Read threads and comment.

I understand you being a Q Follower will get upset over someone not playing your conspiracy spy game.

But it doesn’t give you the right to call me a disrupter when I’m not doing anything different than anyone else on FreeRepublic.

You should consider applying for a job with Twitter.......you’ve got the central theme down to an art.....”Free speech for me but not for thee”.


54 posted on 03/26/2021 9:48:16 AM PDT by David Chase
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To: David Chase; ransomnote; bagster
Look at the very language in your post

"A troll is someone QTards disagree with" and then you said "no name calling (like you do)".

You're a liar: the very word QTards *is* name calling.

Then you doubled down with "I understand you being a Q Follower will get upset over someone not playing your conspiracy spy game."

The very words "conspiracy spy game" are all lies, but they achieve their effect on the reader through implanting negative associations though devoid of substantive contents.

And the casual air with which you do it, shows you are using well-known psy-op techniques for disrupting threads.

For the comment on ransomnote's posting?

You wrote "I don’t feel bad that you don’t feel bad. Because if we think someone or some group is lying, we don’t need any of that silly old proof.

Because they’re liars."

Again, classic discredit through lying through your teeth, strawmen, and all the rest.

Because you were replying to a post with multiple independent links covering the evidence that the CDC has been lying:

but you implied in response, that the claims CDC was lying were pulled out of thin air, without evidence. Meanwhile definition shifting by changing the standard to "proof" which was not even claimed by ransomnote.

You deserve not an iota of credence, and should be removed from the thread.

55 posted on 03/26/2021 10:12:34 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers
You're a liar: the very word QTards *is* name calling.

I find it perfectly apt and descriptive.

Brilliantly conceived by someone of superior intelligence no doubt.

56 posted on 03/26/2021 10:14:15 AM PDT by humblegunner (Balls To Picasso.)
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To: grey_whiskers

I didn’t call you a QTard..........I said QTards......any of them.
Are you saying your a QTard? Because I didn’t call you one.

It was in a general format sorta thing.

Note “you” or “you’re” is not there.

Grammar......it’s your friend.

Your opinion on what I wrote is just that.
I never called anyone a liar (except for the CDC and drug makers)

I quoted Ransomnote......it appears your beef is more with what she said than me saying I agree that we don’t need facts to prove liars are liars.

......or something like that. Yeah.

Trust David Chase


57 posted on 03/26/2021 10:17:47 AM PDT by David Chase
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To: David Chase; grey_whiskers
A troll is someone QTards disagree with or someone who doesn’t buy into their kookiness.

Deceptive, dishonest people and liars warp the meaning of words and make up their own definitions.

The original definition of the word 'troll' from when it was first invented was someone who would put out a piece of bait in an online social environment that was intended to gain a negative reaction, cause anger or disruption.

Then old people started doing the internet and people like you changed the meaning to anybody that says something you don't like.

So, you lie, bend the truth to justify your trolling self, and either play dumb or are dumb.

Here is an incident of trolling in the classicals sense. Posted on the Q thread by someone who has a history of sh*t talking Q and Q researchers (patriots).

People are on to you, new guy. Time for another name change.

58 posted on 03/26/2021 10:21:49 AM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: grey_whiskers

“ You deserve not an iota of credence, and should be removed from the thread.”

Are you sure you don’t work for Twitter already?

You seem to really get into censorship. Jack Dorsey would be proud.

Or you can just not read what I post.


59 posted on 03/26/2021 10:23:17 AM PDT by David Chase
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To: David Chase
Grammar......it’s your friend.

Are you saying your a QTard?

As opposed to a regular tard?


60 posted on 03/26/2021 10:24:53 AM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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