Roseanna Sommers
add this hook...Ellen has HIV and doesn’t tell Frank...
Imagine a woman arguing that it would be rape if she consented to sex with a heterosexual cis-male, but the person was actually a transgender male, using a strap-on.
I imagine nobody who is for this idea of “rape by fraud” would be on the side of the woman in that case.
Roseanna Sommers
I met her in a club down in old Soho
Where you drink champagne and it tastes just like coca cola
C-O-L-A, Cola
She walked up to me and she asked me to dance
I asked her her name and in a dark brown voice she said Lola
L-O-L-A, Lola
La-la-la-la Lola
Well, I’m not the world’s most physical guy
But when she squeezed me tight she nearly broke my spine
Oh my Lola
La-la-la-la Lola
Well, I’m not dumb but I can’t understand
Why she walked like a woman but talked like a man
Oh my Lola
La-la-la-la Lola
La-la-la-la Lola
Well, we drank champagne and danced all night
Under electric candlelight
She picked me up and sat me on her knee
And said “Dear boy, won’t you come home with me?”
Well, I’m not the world’s most passionate guy
But when I looked in her eyes, well I almost fell for my Lola
La-la-la-la Lola
La-la-la-la Lola
Lola
La-la-la-la Lola
La-la-la-la Lola
I pushed her away
I walked to the door
I fell to the floor
I got down on my knees
Then I looked at her and she at me
Well, that’s the way that I want it to stay
And I always want it to be that way for my Lola
La-la-la-la Lola
Girls will be boys and boys will be girls
It’s a mixed up, muddled up, shook up world, except for Lola
La-la-la-la Lola
Well, I left home just a week before
And I’d never ever kissed a woman before
But Lola smiled and took me by the hand
And said “Dear boy, I’m gonna make you a man”
Well, I’m not the world’s most masculine man
But I know what I am and I’m glad I’m a man
And so is Lola
La-la-la-la Lola
La-la-la-la Lola
Lola
La-la-la-la Lola
La-la-la-la Lola
Same could be said of woman wearing a push-up bra and heavy makeup.
Is Ellen a Tranny?
Yes but if "legal consent" is nullified in a business transactions then the transaction is treated as if it never happened. Neither party gets sent to jail.
I can just imagine the response of a man making a rape complaint against a tranny who claimed to be a biological woman.
If the argument here is that using fraud to get sex is akin to rape, then so should using fraud to win an election. Any lawyer here willing to take that case on?
That’s not rape. The ny slimes just wants to criminalize heterosexual sex.
I understand that The military used to teach soldiers if you take advantage of someone who has been drinking it’s rape.
So both are guilty of rape in that scenario.
What happens when the girl is just really horny in the heat of the moment and says yes. And then regrets it.
What happens when the guy, let’s call him Meatloaf, in the heat of the moment promises he will love her until the end of time. And ends up praying for the end of time.
Does it apply to politicians who lie to get my vote?
If a woman beds down and marries a rich man with the intent of divorcing him in couple of years and leaving with a bag of cash, would anyone suggest arresting her for robbery?
“Susan Estrich argued that the law of rape should prohibit fraud to procure sex, just as the law of theft prohibits fraud to secure money.”
Now at least we know they DO view it as a financial transaction. Kinda refreshing honesty for once.
No Frank is a low life lying adulterer. Which is what happens when you pick up a guy in a bar for a one night stand. Crying rape is just blaming your poor life choices on the guy who accepted them.
But I don’t ‘identify’ as married...
Of course, if we had maintained the standard that you only have sex with someone to whom you are married, we wouldn’t be contemplating such nonsense.
Just wondering if these SJW idiots will apply same standard to women who lie to a man about being on birth control, get pregnant, and then expect child support for the next 18 years?
I don’t understand this: “To many feminist legal scholars, the law’s failure to regard sexual fraud as a crime — when fraud elsewhere, such as fraud in business transactions, is taken to invalidate legal consent — shows that we are still beholden to an antiquated notion that rape is primarily a crime of force committed against a chaste, protesting victim, rather than primarily a violation of the right to control access to one’s body on one’s own terms.”
Wouldn’t “deflowering” make rape by fraud a worse crime, not less of one?
Did Ellen do her due diligence? Not really ... she should have found others to vouch for Frank.
Caveat Emptor.
Otherwise, the court system will be overwhelmed with dissatisfied princesses gambling on their latest on-line prince who later proved to come up a little short.
That theory can be used for any mistruth. A job, color of hair, etc