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QAnon are pinning their last desperate hopes on Trump emerging as president on March 4
Yahoo! ^ | Feb 27 | Joshua Zitser

Posted on 02/28/2021 5:16:20 AM PST by RandFan

Where does the conspiracy theory come from?

The belief that Trump will be sworn in on March 4 is rooted in theories promoted by the obscure sovereign citizen movement.

The sovereign citizen movement is a highly-fragmented grouping of Americans who believe taxes, US currency, and even the US government to be illegitimate.

A minority of them believe that laws do not apply to them at all, resulting in the FBI designating some members as "domestic terrorists" and "anti-government extremists."

A central tenet of the movement is that the 14th Amendment, ratified in 1868, converted "sovereign citizens" into "federal citizens."

This belief also goes so far as to dismiss the validity of any presidency after 1868, making Ulysses S. Grant the last valid president.

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Why March 4?

Before the 20th Amendment in 1933, all presidents were sworn in on March 4.

It was introduced to shorten the "lame duck" period between elections and the start of new administrations.

Given that followers of the sovereign citizen movement reject all constitutional amendments passed after the 14th amendment, they do not view this date change as legitimate.

QAnon followers, who failed to see Trump inaugurated in January, have recycled the argument and reinvented the next legitimate inauguration date.

They say that on March 4, 2021, Trump will succeed the last legitimate president, Grant, to become the 19th president

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Conspiracy
KEYWORDS: fake; nutjobs; psyops; q; qanon; qtards; tinfoil
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To: Sirius Lee

“ The whole purpose is to create a boogieman as a convenient way to smear by association, however tenuous, or even if there is no association at all.”

Hasn’t the left already smeared trump supporters, conservatives, pro life people forever for every reason?

Why would they need a 3 year continual disclosure of information to do what they were already doing?


21 posted on 02/28/2021 5:43:48 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (I'd rather be anecdotally alive than scientifically dead...)
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To: RandFan
Given that followers of the sovereign citizen movement reject all constitutional amendments passed after the 14th amendment

Say WHAT?!?

22 posted on 02/28/2021 5:47:02 AM PST by Yo-Yo (is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: RandFan

There may be a QAnon, I don’t know. But trying to smear all conservative Republicans as followers of QAnon is pure propaganda, as well as a hoax conspiracy.


23 posted on 02/28/2021 5:52:39 AM PST by Ge0ffrey
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To: RandFan; Admin Moderator

The forum rules are pretty clear that Q threads are the place for discussing Q.

Why is this article not posted there?


24 posted on 02/28/2021 5:53:48 AM PST by IncPen ("Inside of every progressive is a Totalitarian screaming to get out" ~ David Horowitz)
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To: RandFan

“Before the 20th Amendment in 1933, all presidents were sworn in on March 4.”

Not true. From Wikipedia: “The first inauguration of George Washington took place on April 30, 1789. All subsequent public inaugurations from 1793 until 1933 were held on March 4, except in 1821, 1849, 1877, and 1917, when March 4 fell on a Sunday and the public inauguration ceremony took place on Monday, March 5.”

Typical Yahoo accuracy.


25 posted on 02/28/2021 5:56:05 AM PST by HartleyMBaldwin
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
Why would they need a 3 year continual disclosure of information to do what they were already doing?

Same reason you put a cartoon on a box of cereal instead of a real person. People age and die, but Q lives forever. Like KKK - there's a group with zero members except for the feeb agents provocateur. You need fictional cutouts so as to justify sending 15 agents to investigate a garage pull.

You're duty, as a subject of the deep state, is simply to believe in the Snark. This belief justifies whatever destruction of the American way of life will be required in order to snuff out the Snark and all those who are either aiding it, or who doubt its existence.

26 posted on 02/28/2021 5:56:07 AM PST by Sirius Lee (They intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live and live like you are prepping for eternal life)
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To: RandFan

Trump already is the real President. Just a fact. I can swear out Joe and the Ho anytime. They are frauds.


27 posted on 02/28/2021 5:57:35 AM PST by dforest (RATS are criminals and frauds. Hide anything that belongs to you. They will steal it.)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

If it was the most successful CIA psyop in history, why did they end it

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Because they achieved their objective. They made Trump voters look so weird and dangerous that the left was willing to put up with virtually anything as far as fraud went as long as it didn’t result in Trump as president.


28 posted on 02/28/2021 5:58:02 AM PST by bramps (It's the Islam, stupid!)
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To: RandFan

As far as I can tell there has been no new Q posts since 12/8/20. Q is dead and his corpse has become a straw man for the left to beat on. The next thing we hear will when whoever was behind it reveals themselves.


29 posted on 02/28/2021 5:58:30 AM PST by beef (Hail Harris!)
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To: IncPen

Because it is in the news.


30 posted on 02/28/2021 6:00:04 AM PST by dforest (RATS are criminals and frauds. Hide anything that belongs to you. They will steal it.)
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To: bramps

“ They made Trump voters look so weird and dangerous that the left was willing to put up with virtually anything as far as fraud went as long as it didn’t result in Trump as president.

That sounds far-fetched to me.

They did a great job making Trump supporters feel weird from the very beginning, so it doesn’t Psy-ops was needed for that purpose.

And the left has always been willing to except fraud as long as they won power.


31 posted on 02/28/2021 6:02:56 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (I'd rather be anecdotally alive than scientifically dead...)
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To: RandFan

I guess some people like the sound of “Q anon”. Then some Conservatives wonder why they aren’t taken seriously. Are bringing silly “neocon” back?


32 posted on 02/28/2021 6:04:53 AM PST by NY Cajun (I contributed to her pink slip this morning. )
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

You make good points.


33 posted on 02/28/2021 6:09:26 AM PST by bramps (It's the Islam, stupid!)
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To: RandFan

The people that truly believe this is going to happen are delusional. Really, literally, delusional.


34 posted on 02/28/2021 6:10:42 AM PST by Vermont Lt
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To: bramps

I think there is still much unknown.


35 posted on 02/28/2021 6:10:54 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (I'd rather be anecdotally alive than scientifically dead...)
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To: RandFan

Qanon may well be a false prophet but it is NOT as described in this article.

More gaslighting and disinformation from fake news.


36 posted on 02/28/2021 6:11:39 AM PST by jdsteel ("A Republic, Madam, if you can keep it." Sorry Ben, looks like we blew it.)
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To: SeekAndFind

that’s what I want to know 🤷‍♀️


37 posted on 02/28/2021 6:17:24 AM PST by MyDogAteMyBallot ( )
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To: RandFan

Sovereign Citizens and Q, now that’s a match. Now that I know the Republic is in such capable hands I will finally be able to sleep at night!


38 posted on 02/28/2021 6:18:28 AM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives our fortunes and our sacred honor." )
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To: RandFan

more leftist fever dream, but I wouldn’t put it past them to stage some sort of event that they could blame on Trump or Trump voters.


39 posted on 02/28/2021 6:20:00 AM PST by euram
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To: RandFan
Don't ever believe anything you see on Yahoo if you're unfortunate enough to have a legacy email address there.

It's all trash all the time, worse than CNN.

40 posted on 02/28/2021 6:20:31 AM PST by OKSooner
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