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What if the leftists want a civil war?
American Thinker ^ | 14 Feb, 2021 | Sam Younnokis

Posted on 02/15/2021 6:34:11 AM PST by MtnClimber

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To: MtnClimber

The American Left has been very clear, public, and vocal on this point since at least the mid-1960s. Read what they themselves have said. Yes, they WANT a civil war. They imagine that once they hoist the red banner and declare the Revolution the proletariat will flock to their side by the millions and their victory will be quick, easy, and complete. Then they’ll be able to get on with the important business of creating their perfect Marxist socialist utopia.

As for anyone who *doesn’t* agree them? Well, they’re obviously counterrevolutionaries, and while it might be possible to save a few with rigorous struggle sessions, really, it will be easier just to kill them. What was Bill Ayers’ number? Killing 25 million Americans to achieve the goals of the Revolution was acceptable?

The “American” Left’s goals have been out in the open for at least 55 years. They are *proud* of what they intend to do to the rest of us and eager to get the chance to do it. TAKE THEM SERIOUSLY!


41 posted on 02/15/2021 7:28:36 AM PST by Flatus I. Maximus
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To: outofsalt
Americas enemies want us divided.

At this point, what choice is there? You can hope for an undivided US all you want. Unity to the Socialist/Globalists mean total surrender to their every demand. If you counter with true compromise, they attack you mercilessly and try to drive you from the public domain. They not only threaten destruction of the individual if they refuse to comply; they actually try to destroy that person through societal, financial, and legal means. They have even began to physically attack and kill people who disagree with them. The powers that be turn a blind eye to it; tactically endorse it as righteous, or understandable. It's not systematic, yet. The political class and media pundits are now openly talking about making it so, though.

So again, what choice is there? There are no more hills to retreat to. There is no one in the international community that will come to our aid. No matter who strikes the first blow (I'd argue the Socialist/Globalists already have, numerous times), Conservative and Patriots are going to be painted as the bad guys. So, we either embrace the fact that it is inevitable, and prepare as such, or we go down in history as another tragic footnote as victims of a vicious regime.

42 posted on 02/15/2021 7:39:17 AM PST by Turbo Pig (To close with and destroy....)
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To: Diogenesis

These are not GOP - they are communist insurrectionists who usurped the power of the Senate to attempt to wrongly condemn a man who was forcibly removed from presidential office by a totalitarian junta holding fraudulent elections and operating behind military-patrolled concertina wire topped fences. These “senators” are full fledged criminal members of the cabal destroying our nation and our government. These traitors have unleashed the whirlwind.


43 posted on 02/15/2021 7:42:17 AM PST by FlyingEagle
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To: Flatus I. Maximus
Larry Grathwohl infiltrated The Weathermen terrorist group as an under cover FBI agent. He reported, and Bill Ayers later wrote in his book "Prairie Fire" that the Chinese Communists told them that they would need to eliminate about 25 million people who would never go along with their plans for a communist USA. Grathwohl reported that members of The Weathermen were busy planning how they would eliminate this many people. Ayers and his ilk have pretty much completed their long march through the institutions and I don't think that their beliefs have changed.
44 posted on 02/15/2021 7:43:20 AM PST by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: jdsteel
jdsteel :" My fear is the obvious parallels between China and that of pre-WW2 Germany."

That is absolutely correct !
The Chinese have 'lost face' due to their being identified as the source of the covid pandemic,
much the same a Germany felt resentment after World War II.
In the Orient, 'losing face' is the dominant provocation for hostilities.
Add to that the obvious trade imbalances of the last few decades, and then Trump correctly identifying those trade imbalances,
the Chinese feel slighted, if not outright offended while they are trying to dominate and expand their "sphere of influence" throughout the world.
This Chinese plan is being accomplished through the "Belt and Road Initiative", whereby China invests in other countries infrastructure, a stratedgy that was developed in 2013 .
Currently, these strategy investments can be found by virtue of monetary loans and trade agreements can be found in over 70 countries.
Since these are massive loans that few countries can readily repay, the countries give up some of their national sovereignty,
and yield to pressures from China for land, trade, sea ports, and food stuffs and livestock.
The intiiative also includes government officials, press and media, international organizations,and is even into professional sports programs.
The rate of Chinese expansion is similar to the German Army Weirmarch sweeping across Europe in WWII ; that is 70 countries in only 7 years !

45 posted on 02/15/2021 7:45:16 AM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt
China is even invited to attend "The Great Reset";
how's that for irony ?
46 posted on 02/15/2021 7:48:28 AM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt
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To: MtnClimber

The bridge between these two shores is Wesley Clark.

Never take your eye off of him.


47 posted on 02/15/2021 7:48:32 AM PST by Celerity
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To: MtnClimber

Send in the Rittenhouse brigade! He is 3 and 2.


48 posted on 02/15/2021 7:55:38 AM PST by The MAGA-Deplorian (Sarcasm. It's my only natural defense against stupidity!)
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To: Ransomed

“far from any sort of upheaval as long as we are the fattest, most passively entertained and least used to sustained physical effort of any people ever.”

9 missed meals is just three days.

Peasants past were close enough to food production that they could see famine coming and prepare (however meagerly). They knew food later took effort now.

Today’s ‘peasants’ think food appears on shelves, and will be far from prepared when those shelves just stop restocking.


49 posted on 02/15/2021 8:02:02 AM PST by ctdonath2 (Interesting how those so interested in workERS are so disinterested in workING.)
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To: Levy78

Watching them ESAD, single or as a group, would be reward enough.


50 posted on 02/15/2021 8:04:30 AM PST by going hot
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To: MachIV

Our military is a social experiment and is quickly going down hill; push come to shove, Xiden et al will invite Chinese troops in to do the dirty work - something they are good at.


51 posted on 02/15/2021 8:11:02 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: ctdonath2

I also wonder what % of US adults have ever actually worked hard outdoors in adverse weather conditions. Or gone a day without eating apart from medical reasons. It has to be the lowest % in all of history at this point.

Also, if the internet/cell phones/ passive screen entertainment goes away I imagine a sizable % of people will simply go into some sort of psychosis as they try to deal with reality without their screen interface.

Freegards


52 posted on 02/15/2021 8:40:58 AM PST by Ransomed
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

“Simple? Can’t you see it? They will push and push until they make things so intolerable states start to pull out of the Union and they will swoop in and crush it—use the “Rebellion” to change the laws, take away the guns and usher in a Peoples Utopia. Biden will have war powers to end the Republic as we know it. All for 100 years of Total Democrat Control. The goal is to get what they want. BUT, they may have overstepped—The break away states may not be so easy to overcome. What if Texas seizes the Nukes and threatens to use them on The Federalists? You can bet The Federalist blue states will have Chinese support, even Troops to “Put down the Racist, Homophobic Rebels” You can almost see how CNN will cover it.”

Wow! Just wow! Back away from the crack pipe! Drop the amphetamine bottle! There is no way a government that is cowed into allowing rioting, murder, and mayhem to proceed unabated for over a year, which allows every major urban area to implement sanctuary laws for criminals and miscreants, and which screams to defund the police, will do a damn thing of significance to stop any state from seceding, especially not using nukes to destroy half the country. Such talk is absolutely ridiculous. The National Guard in Washington DC is just political theatre. The troops are not reliable and will not shoot on their countrymen in large numbers. In fact, it’s more likely that if such a thing is ordered the troops will shooting at each other.

Learn about the Texas Nationalist Movement which is right now advancing the Texit initiative to have Texas secede from the rotten-to-the-core now-defunct USA that has morphed into a criminally led illegitimate tyrannical junta. State by state nullification, non-compliance, and secession is the only way to recover our stolen liberty and freedom.


53 posted on 02/15/2021 8:54:22 AM PST by DrPretorius
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To: ClearCase_guy
My belief for quite a while is that they do want the Civil War.

Look at all the riots we've had since this summer. Look at all the shutdowns. Look at all the 'stay at home' and mask mandates. They already started a civil war. Our side just hasn't fought back yet.

54 posted on 02/15/2021 8:58:26 AM PST by ladyjane
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To: MtnClimber

If they force it upon us, remember who the primary targets are...THOSE WHO GIVE THE ORDERS.


55 posted on 02/15/2021 9:26:31 AM PST by JimRed (TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: MtnClimber

“Then, Sir, we will give them the bayonet!” – Stonewall Jackson


56 posted on 02/15/2021 9:32:15 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: DrPretorius
They will push and push until they make things so intolerable states start to pull out of the Union and they will swoop in and crush it

With what? The current standing army is not up to that task, size wise.

57 posted on 02/15/2021 9:33:54 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: MtnClimber

Well, they’d better be careful. They may actually end up understanding the purpose of the 2nd Amendment. The right has 300 million guns and trillions of rounds of ammunition; while the left doesn’t seem to know the difference between a boy and a girl.


58 posted on 02/15/2021 9:46:12 AM PST by libertylover (This is not your Founding Fathers' United States of America anymore.)
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To: MtnClimber
What if the leftists want a civil war?

They would make out just as well as they have with muh Russia and two impeachments.

59 posted on 02/15/2021 2:07:25 PM PST by Albion Wilde (Laughter separates us from despair and gives us a chance at love. --Craig Ferguson)
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To: Diogenesis

That picture of Susan Collins must be 25 years old. And predictably, Mittens' head is bigger than everyone else's.

60 posted on 02/15/2021 2:10:08 PM PST by Albion Wilde (Laughter separates us from despair and gives us a chance at love. --Craig Ferguson)
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