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To: little jeremiah

Not what I said.
If there was fraud, it is up to the States to remedy in any manner they see fit.
If they aren’t convinced there is fraud in the local races, then the vote stands.
They can have a do-over.
They can sit on their erect thumbs and do nothing for 4 years.
Only the people can make them act.
Those are the same people who say, “You can’t fight City Hall. They know what’s best.” and walk around with masks on their faces.


977 posted on 01/31/2021 1:37:28 PM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (If there be WAR in the offing, let it begin HERE. With ME.)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

But if you arrest enough of the fraudsters at the state and local level, including governors and SoS’ if applicable, the states will take notice and try to save face or CYA. Or as has been hinted Trump knows what the actual results on Nov. 3 were at all levels and once exposed that can be used by the states to show the truly elected and they can blame someone else. It saves, those not arrested at state and local level, expense and embarrassment of running another election.


986 posted on 01/31/2021 1:48:41 PM PST by Sobieski at Kahlenberg Mtn. (All along the watchtower fortune favors the bold.)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

But if you arrest enough of the fraudsters at the state and local level, including governors and SoS’ if applicable, the states will take notice and try to save face or CYA. Or as has been hinted Trump knows what the actual results on Nov. 3 were at all levels and once exposed that can be used by the states to show the truly elected and they can blame someone else. It saves, those not arrested at state and local level, expense and embarrassment of running another election.


987 posted on 01/31/2021 1:48:41 PM PST by Sobieski at Kahlenberg Mtn. (All along the watchtower fortune favors the bold.)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

Not what I said.
If there was fraud, it is up to the States to remedy in any manner they see fit.
If they aren’t convinced there is fraud in the local races, then the vote stands.
They can have a do-over.
They can sit on their erect thumbs and do nothing for 4 years.
Only the people can make them act.
Those are the same people who say, “You can’t fight City Hall. They know what’s best.” and walk around with masks on their faces.

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I live in a corrupt state run by corrupt Dems with all mail in voting for more than 20 years. I see no remedy. For years the old saying is that Multnomah County always releases its votes last because they have to see how many more they need to manufacture.

Thomas Jefferson’s statement applies, just put “State” instead of Republic. How to remove corruption when the machinery of government which would do the fixing is corrupt?

“Once a Republic has become corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of its growing evils, but by removing the corruption and restoring it in its entirety. Every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”

My state went Demshevik because of increasing fraud, like many others. Once the state government is corrupt and runs the elections, there is no freaking remedy unless the feds get uncorrupt and make national voting laws.

And this brings to mind another quote, John Adams. So when the machinery of gov is run by corrupt immoral criminals, how to fix it? Any ideas welcome. I see non other that extra-judicial/extra-constitutional.

“Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.”

And that reminds of what Q quoted more than once, not sure exactly how much was quoted but definitely most of this part:

“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.—That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, —That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.”


993 posted on 01/31/2021 1:55:16 PM PST by little jeremiah (Thirst for truth is the most valuable possession and no one can take it away from you.)
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