You understand very little.
I won't waste my time. Besides, I don't speak derp.
Posted on 01/11/2021 11:28:39 PM PST by A Conservative Future
To the QAnon community, and others involved in storming the Capitol:
The Deep State is real, but it’s not what you think. The Deep State you worry about is mostly made up; a fiction, a lie, a product of active imaginations, grifter manipulations, and the internet. I’m telling you this now because storming the Capitol building has drawn the attention of the real Deep State — the national security bureaucracy — and it’s important you understand what that means.
You attacked America. Maybe you think it was justified — as a response to a stolen election, or a cabal of child-trafficking pedophiles, or whatever — but it was still a violent attack on the United States. No matter how you describe it, that’s how the real Deep State is going to treat it.
The impact of that will make everything else feel like a LARP.
The Real Deep State
I’ve been teaching college students about the Deep State for years, and have interacted with it on occasion. By “Deep State,” I’m referring to executive branch agencies populated with unelected officials, especially those involving national security, law enforcement, and intelligence. The non-nefarious name for it is “the federal bureaucracy,” with the subset that includes the military, CIA, and FBI known as “the national security state.”
In 2017, conservative writer David Frum quipped that if you replaced “Deep State” with “rule of law,” you’d have a better understanding of Trumpist complaints.
There’s some truth in that. Federal agencies and their mandates were created by law, their annual budgets are determined by law, and they’re overseen by elected officials. Their main job is executing U.S. law, and one reason they’ve clashed with the White House is being asked to do things outside their legal abilities, or to not do things that are legally required.
So rule of law is part of it, but it’s not that simple. The president appoints and the Senate confirms top officials, from the Secretary of State to the five members of the Arctic Research Commission, over 1,200 in total. Every other executive branch employee — over 4 million if you include the military, over 2.7 million if you don’t — is hired or recruited, not elected or appointed. This means that the Departments of State, Defense, Justice, the intelligence community, and federal law enforcement are staffed with people the agencies hired themselves.
Their mandates are broad. For example, the FBI is supposed to “investigate federal crimes and threats to national security.” While there are laws giving the FBI certain powers (e.g. to arrest people) and limits (needing warrants), a lot is open to interpretation, especially regarding national security threats.
It’s fair to say the FBI, CIA, IRS, CDC, and other federal agencies have, to some extent, taken on lives of their own. So has the military, and the larger defense-industrial complex. They’re under control of elected and appointed leaders, but also not, acting according to established laws, established regulations (many of which they wrote themselves), and individual judgment calls. You could call that “the Deep State.”
National Security
If you want to understand the real Deep State, the biggest thing you need to know is it’s institutional, impersonal, and operates on a national scale.
The law enforcement-intelligence-national security bureaucracy doesn’t really care about a lot of the little things people think it cares about. It’s mostly focused on terrorists, serial killers, narco-traffickers, and foreign governments. Threats to the nation.
Previous QAnon activity wasn’t on that scale, but the Capitol attack is. I don’t think this has sunk in yet. It wasn’t 9/11, but it was bigger than, for example, Benghazi.
Americans storming the Capitol to prevent Congress from carrying out election law hasn’t happened before. When four Puerto Rican nationalists shot at Congressmen from the House balcony in 1954, they were rightly called terrorists, convicted in federal court, and imprisoned. And that was just four attackers, no one died, and it wasn’t encouraged by a losing presidential candidate to disrupt the peaceful transition of power.
The Capitol attack was a unique event in American history, something they’ll teach about in high school. National security analysts are comparing it to last year’s FBI-thwarted plot to kidnap and execute Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer, which came a few months after armed demonstrators forcefully stopped business at the Michigan statehouse. There have been armed post-election demonstrations at multiple statehouses, and reports of plots to storm them next week.
It’s a pattern. And after the Capitol attack, the Deep State is going to take it seriously.
U.S. code defines “sedition” as using “force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States.” That’s what you did. And the legal process you tried to stop is one of the most important in American democracy.
Five people are dead, and it could’ve easily been more. You beat a police officer to death and injured others. You set up a gallows and chanted “hang Mike Pence.” While some goofy attention-seekers attracted the most focus at first, it’s increasingly clear that some who stormed the Capitol, likely members of far right militias, were searching for Vice President Pence, Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi, Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, and other national leaders, and would’ve killed them if they had the chance. That’s terrorism, fortunately thwarted by Capitol security and luck.
Compare that to, for example, riots this past summer. Looting is bad, but it’s a problem for police and insurance companies. Trying to burn down a police station or courthouse is worse, but that too is a law enforcement problem, perhaps one requiring federal assistance. Storming the Capitol, forcefully hindering the execution of U.S. law, and trying to kill top elected officials is a national security problem.
What you did was on another level, and the reaction will be too.
After the Capitol Attack
By “you,” I don’t mean you personally (unless you were there), but your movement as a whole. QAnon’s fingerprints are all over this.
A 35-year-old woman named Ashli Babbitt, shot by Capitol police as she climbed through an opening near where elected officials were hiding, was a QAnon believer who thought she was taking part in the prophesized “storm.” The guy in the horns who traipsed through the Senate chamber is known as the “Q Shaman.” QAnon slogans and hashtags, such as “where we go one we go all,” can be seen on shirts and signs at the riot, and on tons of related social media posts.
This means that, for the first time, the Deep State cares about you.
No matter what anyone’s told you, Deep State operatives weren’t spending their time messing with your internet discussions. That’s below their radar. It wasn’t until May 2019 that an FBI intelligence bulletin warned of the potential for terrorism from “conspiracy theory-driven domestic extremists,” using QAnon and Pizzagate as examples. But it didn’t become a law enforcement or counterterrorism priority.
I should know — I’ve been trying to get them to take QAnon more seriously. This past August, after Trump publicly acknowledged the movement, I warned of the potential for election violence in a national security publication called Defense One:
Win, lose, or too close to call, Trump will be in a position to activate the violent subsets of QAnon, deliberately or inadvertently. The president has been insisting, without evidence, that the election will be rigged, blaming an ambiguous “they” or a rotating cast of villains. The conspiracy-minded QAnon community makes for a receptive audience.
If Trump starts tweeting things like “RIGGED! They’re trying to take your country. Don’t let them! THIS IS IT! Second Amendment!” — let alone if he uses QAnon lingo like “the Storm is upon us” — there’s a risk that some violence-embracing QAnon followers decide to act. And if some do, it could encourage others.
That’s basically what happened. If anything, I think I guessed low.
But now that QAnon was involved in violent sedition, the national security state is paying attention. Arrests of people caught on camera storming the Capitol have already begun. Prosecutions will follow. Big tech companies — who, while powerful, are weaker than, and have a healthy fear of the government — are now treating QAnon almost like how they treat ISIS. A giant federal apparatus built to fight al Qaeda will shift some capacity to fighting you, especially the white nationalist and anti-government militias in your orbit.
You cheered on lawyers who said they’d release the Kraken. But now you’ve poked Leviathan.
This is what you need to absorb: QAnon and “stop the steal” are forever associated with a violent attack against the United States. Maybe that’s not what it’s meant to you, maybe you think that’s a misread of last week’s events, but that’s how the real Deep State, a lot of elected officials, and much of the public sees it. If that isn’t what you signed up for, now would be a good time to get out.
Can you translate that into English?
Thanks.
You understand very little.
I won't waste my time. Besides, I don't speak derp.
The real crime is those that think the Trump supporters in Trump supporter garb were the main instigators of the riots. It was posted here on FR that antifaux were going to show up in Trump supporting garb and cause havoc. There might have been a few of those who got carried away and followed not because they knew each other but because they saw Trump supporter garb on others and went along. This was and will always be a setup and a few Trump supporters got caught up in the middle of all of this. This is the work of the antifaux wearing Trump garb so that the press will have many pictures of people in Trump supporting garb saying with excitement “See Trump supporters are terrorists! Let the purging from history begin!”
But hey it isn’t incitement when a Congress critter gets up on the podium and says with anger and hostility in her voice “Let’s make sure we show up wherever we have to show up. And if you see anybody from that Cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out and you create a crowd. And you push back on them. And you tell them they’re not welcome anymore, anywhere. We’ve got to get the children connected to their parents” OR The ambushes that have taken places at restaurants by these thugs. No this isn’t incitement at all coming from the demoncraps.
No nothing from the demoncraps is incitement that they have stirred up and expected no response. Nah its just the repubes who are doing all the violent divisive antics to prevent civility in our nation.
One thing to say to the demoncraps and the repubes: Time to pay the piper because if you don’t the rats are going to turn on the piper. They have already begun to do so as the demoncraps have little use for them anymore.
You cheered on lawyers who said they’d release the Kraken. But now you’ve poked Leviathan.
There's far more truth to that than the general public realizes...There's no explanation for this world wide coordination other than that one...
No once did this educated goon mention ANTIFA or BLM...But then he's not there to tell the truth...His job is to influence public opinion...
I’m no fan of “Q” or the fruity Q followers.
But this defender of the deep state is a total turd.
The capital was not stormed by Trump supporters - Q or otherwise.
Antifa stormed the capital so as to frame Trump and Trump supporters for it.
Trump supporters were let into the building and led throughout - it looked like a guided tour.
Anyone with half a brain knows what happened...
Again, I’m not a fan of “Q” - but this article is bullshit.
see post 65....Your take? Your Q guys appear to be able to run things down.
Sigh...
“QAnon” is not “retarded”.
QAnon is just your family and friends discussing the “news” and trying to
figure what parts are fake and what parts aren’t, and they are doing a far
better job of it than the EneMedia is, too!
This. ALL. OF. THIS. is intended to make such activity a thought crime, or worse.
There is nothing more earthshaking than an awakened, engaged, narrative resistant, informed populace.
I am one of these common people questioning the narrative.
A “Qtard” as so many of you out here outside our quarantined space like to call us.
Y’all can come get me first. They’ll get the less engaged Trump supporters after.
Enjoy whatever narrative you’re fed along the way. Or wake up and smell
the programming and gaslighting.
~Easy
Meanwhile, let’s see what happens. This ain’t over by a long shot.
Wait, did anyone notice this guy said he has been teaching the “deep state” for years?
They let this guy teach? Heavens to mergatroid!
Odd that this rioting happened before Trump even ended his speech. 45 minutes away by walking.
And most if that can be disputed, as far as ve seen.
Where's he? Has he been arrested yet?
This article is highly inflammatory. It is meant to incite people.
Why was Qanon implicated in this thing in the first place? They claim Qanon helped orchestrate it, but has that actually been proved, or is that also a false flag? The bare chested man was supposed to be Qanon, but I doubt it. Any nut can adopt something. It doesn’t make it official. He seemed a set up, anyway.
That would be Jake Angeli, shamanic practitioner.
Yes he was arrested and released on bail, I read the other day.
And I suspect that that is exactly why he was sent.
To give the GOP Never-Trumpers cover for dismissing
all of the fraud without even looking, as “conspiracy theories”, and voting
against the objections, just as they did..
He had a couple cameramen “minders” or “helpers” with him, too.
I think THIS was the entire reason for the “Riot” / “Breach” event
in the first place. I think it was a false flag event to paint all who
object to the steal as weird, dangerously violent, crazy conspiracy nut jobs.
And of course, someone had to be killed to lend the whole thing “Gravitas”.
I’m waiting to hear that she was being told not to stop, no matter what,
they won’t shoot... by minders of her own.
This clown is not an Anon.
He has worked long and hard and not anonymously, to set this final act up.
I suspect the van dropped building breachers were there to make sure this
guy got in and got his photo op.
We’ve seen Twitter pic collections of this guy posing at BLM and Antifa
and Global Warming protests. In some others he’s holding a Q Sent Me
sign. He’s an actor. (Crisis actor perhaps?) He gets himself in all these
photo-ops for a purpose, and that purpose is narrative management.
It’s been a long road for him to finally arrive behind the Capital podium.
I believe he was sent there to set Anons up for national dismissal.
I find it hard not to suspect that this was an Anti Q Derp Clown Op.
~Easy
What real evidence do they have that Qanon planned this? Any?
there is a hacked email floating around saying he was paid by philly antifa
Sirry but that article is complete BS, better you go back to DU and post it there where they are dumb enough to believe it.
And your support of it indicates you are a troll
>Yet, not a word about BLM and AntiFA.
Actually he did. He said correctly that the government doesn’t care about your property, lives or honor, only its own.
“Compare that to, for example, riots this past summer. Looting is bad, but it’s a problem for police and insurance companies.”
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