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To: Farcesensitive; Disestablishmentarian

All British territory below the candian border was ceded and all brit troops south of the border were removed.

Terms of the treaty were significantly influenced by the Duke of Wellington who stated pretty bluntly that concession of any territory wasn’t feasible despite military successes they had achieved in Washington, Maine, etc.

Treaty returned to the status quo including return of parts of Maine they had already won and wanted to incorporate into Canada as well as large tracts of the Midwest. Treaty was not finalized by Congress until Feb 16 more than a month after the Battle of NO on Jan 8th and only 4 days after the final battle at Fort Bowery. The Senate knew of NO by that time and would not have ratified the treaty with NO remaining in the Brits hands. The Brits wanted the war done and over - finances, public opinion, and France was hinting at rejoining. Had the attempted to retain NO we would have continued till they were out.


711 posted on 01/02/2021 2:31:07 PM PST by reed13k (For evil to triumph it is only necessary that good men do nothing)
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As to one author/historian thinking otherwise, James Carr in his (1979). “The Battle of New Orleans and the Treaty of Ghent”. disagreed arguing that Britain negotiated the Treaty of Ghent with the goal of ending the war but knew that a major British expedition had been ordered to seize New Orleans. Carr says that Britain had no intention of repudiating the treaty and continuing the war if it had won the battle.


714 posted on 01/02/2021 2:36:04 PM PST by reed13k (For evil to triumph it is only necessary that good men do nothing)
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Military historians I have read see it differently.

New Orleans was the key.


715 posted on 01/02/2021 2:36:20 PM PST by Disestablishmentarian (The next war has already started. )
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