Posted on 12/11/2020 2:13:53 PM PST by GeorgiaDawg32
I don't have a clue about all the legal stuff going on and I certainly don't understand the latin terms being used.
My question(s) are: 1) What will the SCOTUS decision be if they hear the case and 2) What happens if they don't?
In my opinion, this election has been stolen through blatant, in your face, slap your mama fraud with the guilty parties not caring they were caught since big media (the networks) and big tech (facebook, etc.) are denying and deleting any dissent.
I grew up in the 50's. This makes me fear for the future of my grandkids..
So be it.
Hopefully our “alleged” conservatives on the Court are standing tall, minus Roberts of course, and will hear the case. Problem is the Constitution requires the Electors vote on the first Monday after the second week of December (In 2020 Dec.14) only two more full days away!
Since the Court cant Constitutionally delay the vote they would have to hear verbal arguments over the weekend or very early Monday AM. They could simply accept the written record in the suit without verbal argument and find in favor of Texas et. al. making the votes in question tainted.
If they do that, in effect, they decertify the Presidential election in the the Defendant States and make it impossible for either Presidential candidate to get the 270 Electoral Votes needed. This would begin the Contingent Election process in the House of Representatives when the INCOMMING Congress is seated Jan.18th which will be a one State one vote election and would certainly elect Trump President.
This would mean the Marxist media assembled for victory parties across America to celebrate the Biden/Harris win would choke on their wine and cheese. Those surviving would attack the Supremes with a fury they do not want.
I can only imagine the food fight that is taking place between the factions on the Court with Roberts trying to convince everyone to simply “Decline” and save his cocktail schedule for next year. No explanation would be needed.
With Barret there are enough conservatives to prevail without Roberts if the salvation of their Country is enough to give them the courage needed.
Pray for them.
That's a good bet. There is no reason for them to decide the case, and they can point to legislatures (both state and Congress) as having plenary power over elections.
"Don't blame us for your crooked government, you want it fixed, don't vote for crooked legislators."
All of them are in on the scam of selling out the public. Don't look to the government to fix itself. All branches are in cahoots against the people. This is the general nature of government.
The people lack cajones.
Of course I am too! I have $1,500 riding on this election..........
Your reading comprehension is very good.........I hope I'm wrong too.
Yes.
“I agree with you on the most likely scenario. The SCT is not being asked to pick the winner, but to rule on an important Constitutional issue. With 5 votes on the originalist side, my guess is that Texas has a better than 50% likelihood of prevailing.
*BUT*
If that happens, the state GOP majorities in those states would have to STAY UNIFIED in order to pick Trump electors.”
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“... pick Trump electors...” OR call for emergency snap ELECTION RE-VOTES (sans all the fraud opportunities)
SCOTUS has declined OJ cases. There are plenty of grounds, and when you are a literally hallucinatory body, you can invent new reasons to dodge. Especially so in "unprecedented" situations.
All they need to say is that the decision is up to legislatures, who have more power than courts do in election matters.
There is no legal obligation to be consistent. They can be inconsistent without penalty under the law.
God bless Thomas. He's a good man. The Court can go to hell.
“Don’t blame us for your crooked government, you want it fixed, don’t vote for crooked legislators.”
By rejecting it they are giving us a crooked government and will insure there will never be any government that is not crooked.
Your grandkids will be fine.
SCOTUS will either take it or they won’t. What happens if they do? Probably nothing.
What happens if they don’t? Probably nothing.
There isn’t going to be a civil war. There isn’t going to be a resistance. The Dems will swim go left for a while and then they will swing back to center.
Often times on FR lately I get the sense that I am watching a millennial Twitter mob. They feast on the same news over and over. If you do not adhere to the “mob”, they point at you: J’accuse!
Life in America will go on. Pissed off old men will continue to think they was robbed. Eventually, some younger folks will come in and change the dynamic.
Conservative beliefs are stronger than this crap. We will live to fight another day. This is not the end of the Republic. People are too busy living their lives. Take some time and get out of the echo chamber.
What good is a vote, if the vote is fraudulent, invalid or thrown out.
Under the constitution, they are the trial court. They are the place where evidence is introduced and the issue is settled in the first place.
Marbury v. Madison was decided on jurisdiction grounds! In that case, Jay correctly decided the case was outside of SCOTUS jurisdiction - even though Congress granted jurisdiction, the Constitution being superior over statute, SCOTUS could not take Marbury's case.
I'm well past believing that any government body will "do the right thing." The whole apparatus is kaput. Especially the "big" ones.
The thing to do is change your witholdings to almost “exempt.” Pay your taxes. Quarterly or in April. But don’t give them a nickel before it’s due.
Starve the beast.
That's a fair question. The vote becomes a act in a sham ritual, same as when all the viable candidates are on the same path.
A couple points. YMMV.
I abhor universal suffrage, and for good reason. The condition we are in is partly attributable to universal suffrage.
It's up to the people as a whole to keep their freedom. Govenments exist to balance control, and when they take too much, the people either take it back, or they lose.
Voting as a ritual is used to endorse usurpation of the people's power. "You voted for us, so our exercise of power is legitimate."
Breaking news --- SCOTUS rejects TX bid.
There are two issues to be considered. Did the defendant states executive officials implement election laws without legislative action as required by the federal Constitution and did those laws undermine the integrity of the vote such that fraud could not be detected? The actual evidence of fraud would not be an issue for the SCOTUS but they could appoint a “Special Master” to investigate the evidence for the SCOTUS if they deemed it necessary.
The second issue would be to determine if the actions by the defendant states diluted the validity of the plaintiff state votes which would violate the equal protection Amendment of the Constitution.
If they refuse to hear this case there are at least four or five other cases that are ready to file or have already been filed. If they take this case it may cause all the actions to be joined under one ruling since there is a lot of overlap. It is unlikely they would order any recounts or special elections but they could declare the elector selection for the defendant states as void and let them vote on it in a legislative special session. If the states are unable to come up with a new set of electors and Biden has less than 270 it will go to the House for a contingent election with one vote per state. Trump would win this 28-22.
The people have elected that government.
“Let the attacks begin......”
I think you’re right. They’re thinking of Scalia’s ‘natural death’ and Bank of Malta accounts.
“1. we do nothing and live under a tyrannical oligarchy”
We have been for many years.
“What happens if Congress refuses to seat electors from PA, GA, MI and WI? What if state legislators refuse to appoint electors?”
You are counting on politicians to grow a spine? The only thing that will stiffen their spines is to know the displeasure of their constituents up close and personal. No more hiding in Washington for decades.
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