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To: mrsmith; Spunky; CottonBall; Jane Long; NIKK; All

An other way than mentioned above Thus my “not necessarily” comment.

https://twitter.com/amuse/status/1345444714351374339?s=21

BREAKING: @tedcruz has proposed a daring plan to resurrect the #ElectoralCommission (last convened in 1877) to conduct a 10-day audit of the results of the election. Almost 40% of Americans from both parties believe widespread election fraud changed the results of the election.

2/ Joining Cruz are Ron Johnson (R-WI.), James Lankford (R-OK.), Steve Daines (R-MT.), John Kennedy (R-LA.), Marsha Blackburn (R-TN.), and Mike Braun (R-IN.), and Senators-Elect Cynthia Lummis (R-WO.), Roger Marshall (R-KA.), Bill Hagerty (R-TN.), and Tommy Tuberville (R-AL.)

3/ More than one hundred members of Congress have announced plans to object to seating electors from states where election fraud took place or where the states broke their own election laws unless an #ElectoralCommission is convened.

4/ The media and #BigTech persist in claiming that there is no evidence of election fraud or violations of election law in multiple states despite hundreds of hours of testimony describing both heard in hearings held in several states.

5/ Here is the joint statement from members of the U.S. Senate on the creation of an #ElectoralCommission: cruz.senate.gov/?p=press_relea…

6/ Here is the history of the #ElectoralCommision:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electoral…

7/ The last #ElectoralCommission consisted of 5 House members, 5 Senate members, and 5 Supreme Court Justices. elections.harpweek.com/Controversy.htm

8/ With half of the country believing that election fraud changed the outcome, media/bigtech censoring discussion of the evidence, and the SCOTUS’ refusal to get involved — if we want to move forward we need the #ElectoralCommission to give the president his day in ‘court’.

9/ “By any measure, the allegations of fraud & irregularities in the 2020 election exceed any in our lifetimes. We intend to vote on January 6 to reject the electors from disputed states as not regularly given & lawfully certified” ~ Ted Cruz


9,714 posted on 01/02/2021 7:05:32 PM PST by hoosiermama ( When you open your heart to patriotism, there is not room for prejudice. .DJT )
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To: hoosiermama

Will be interesting to see how that plays out.


9,716 posted on 01/02/2021 7:08:23 PM PST by caww ( )
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To: hoosiermama

Thanks.


9,718 posted on 01/02/2021 7:16:08 PM PST by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow,)
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To: hoosiermama

“we need the #ElectoralCommission to give the president his day in ‘court’.”
Yeah, I think this great.
Of course it affects nothing I said above- but we’re not in an argument.

As I wrote my congressman I just want verifiable elections.
We didn’t have one in 2020.
This proposal could correct that, or future elections. And any politician that doesn’t support a look into the election must support crooked elections.


9,719 posted on 01/02/2021 7:16:23 PM PST by mrsmith (US MEDIA: " Every 'White' cop is a criminal! And all the 'non-white' criminals saints!")
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To: hoosiermama

Also.....this explains the difference between what Sen Hawley was leading the effort of doing.....objecting....and, this commision.

😉


9,720 posted on 01/02/2021 7:18:50 PM PST by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow,)
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To: hoosiermama

I’m still not sure how this is going to work. Cruz is proposing going back to a solution prior to the Electoral Count Act of 1887, when a process was put in place. I’m not sure what the process would be to revert back to it, but I would think it would need a majority of Congress to go along with it?


9,730 posted on 01/02/2021 7:43:28 PM PST by Spirit of Liberty (It's morning in America again!)
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To: hoosiermama; NIKK; mrs smith; Spirit of Liberty; Spunky

I had read the thread about Cruz et. al., and that’s where my questions came from. (It was under breaking news, then disappeared)


9,733 posted on 01/02/2021 8:02:50 PM PST by CottonBall (COVID -1984)
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To: hoosiermama; NIKK; mrs smith; Spirit of Liberty; Spunky

Forgot to ask - who or what decided if the 15 member panel like they used in 1877 can be convened? Or whatever entity will decide to do the 10 day audit?


9,735 posted on 01/02/2021 8:06:22 PM PST by CottonBall (COVID -1984)
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To: All; hoosiermama; CottonBall; Spirit of Liberty
This is the ACTUAL statement from Ted Cruz's site. It does not read exactly how you posted from that tweet.

" Joint Statement from Senators Cruz, Johnson, Lankford, Daines, Kennedy, Blackburn, Braun, Senators-Elect Lummis, Marshall, Hagerty, Tuberville January 2, 2021 | 202-228-7561 WASHINGTON, D.C. - U.S. Senators Ted Cruz (R-Texas), Ron Johnson (R-Wis.), James Lankford (R-Okla.), Steve Daines (R-Mont.), John Kennedy (R-La.), Marsha Blackburn (R-Tenn.), and Mike Braun (R-Ind.), and Senators-Elect Cynthia Lummis (R-Wyo.), Roger Marshall (R-Kan.), Bill Hagerty (R-Tenn.), and Tommy Tuberville (R-Ala.) issued the following statement in advance of the Electoral College certification process on January 6, 2021:

"America is a Republic whose leaders are chosen in democratic elections. Those elections, in turn, must comply with the Constitution and with federal and state law.

"When the voters fairly decide an election, pursuant to the rule of law, the losing candidate should acknowledge and respect the legitimacy of that election. And, if the voters choose to elect a new office-holder, our Nation should have a peaceful transfer of power.

"The election of 2020, like the election of 2016, was hard fought and, in many swing states, narrowly decided. The 2020 election, however, featured unprecedented allegations of voter fraud, violations and lax enforcement of election law, and other voting irregularities.

"Voter fraud has posed a persistent challenge in our elections, although its breadth and scope are disputed. By any measure, the allegations of fraud and irregularities in the 2020 election exceed any in our lifetimes.

"And those allegations are not believed just by one individual candidate. Instead, they are widespread. Reuters/Ipsos polling, tragically, shows that 39% of Americans believe ‘the election was rigged.' That belief is held by Republicans (67%), Democrats (17%), and Independents (31%).

"Some Members of Congress disagree with that assessment, as do many members of the media.

"But, whether or not our elected officials or journalists believe it, that deep distrust of our democratic processes will not magically disappear. It should concern us all. And it poses an ongoing threat to the legitimacy of any subsequent administrations.

"Ideally, the courts would have heard evidence and resolved these claims of serious election fraud. Twice, the Supreme Court had the opportunity to do so; twice, the Court declined.

"On January 6, it is incumbent on Congress to vote on whether to certify the 2020 election results. That vote is the lone constitutional power remaining to consider and force resolution of the multiple allegations of serious voter fraud.

"At that quadrennial joint session, there is long precedent of Democratic Members of Congress raising objections to presidential election results, as they did in 1969, 2001, 2005, and 2017. And, in both 1969 and 2005, a Democratic Senator joined with a Democratic House Member in forcing votes in both houses on whether to accept the presidential electors being challenged.

"The most direct precedent on this question arose in 1877, following serious allegations of fraud and illegal conduct in the Hayes-Tilden presidential race. Specifically, the elections in three states-Florida, Louisiana, and South Carolina-were alleged to have been conducted illegally.

"In 1877, Congress did not ignore those allegations, nor did the media simply dismiss those raising them as radicals trying to undermine democracy. Instead, Congress appointed an Electoral Commission-consisting of five Senators, five House Members, and five Supreme Court Justices-to consider and resolve the disputed returns.

"We should follow that precedent. To wit, Congress should immediately appoint an Electoral Commission, with full investigatory and fact-finding authority, to conduct an emergency 10-day audit of the election returns in the disputed states. Once completed, individual states would evaluate the Commission's findings and could convene a special legislative session to certify a change in their vote, if needed.

"Accordingly, we intend to vote on January 6 to reject the electors from disputed states as not ‘regularly given' and ‘lawfully certified' (the statutory requisite), unless and until that emergency 10-day audit is completed.

"We are not naïve. We fully expect most if not all Democrats, and perhaps more than a few Republicans, to vote otherwise. But support of election integrity should not be a partisan issue. A fair and credible audit-conducted expeditiously and completed well before January 20-would dramatically improve Americans' faith in our electoral process and would significantly enhance the legitimacy of whoever becomes our next President. We owe that to the People.

"These are matters worthy of the Congress, and entrusted to us to defend. We do not take this action lightly. We are acting not to thwart the democratic process, but rather to protect it. And every one of us should act together to ensure that the election was lawfully conducted under the Constitution and to do everything we can to restore faith in our Democracy."

Ted Cruz

I say, yes they have every right to contest it, but in the end whatever happens it appears to me they will still have to follow the U.S.C. code that was enacted AFTER the 1887 contested election. See below.

"Since 1887, 3 U.S.C. 15 has set the method for objections by Members of Congress to electoral votes. During the Joint Session, lawmakers may object to individual electoral votes or to state returns as a whole. An objection must be declared in writing and signed by at least one Representative and one Senator. In the case of an objection, the Joint Session recesses and each chamber considers the objection separately for no more than two hours; each Member may speak for five minutes or less. After each house votes on whether to accept the objection, the Joint Session reconvenes and both chambers disclose their decisions. If both chambers agree to the objection, the electoral votes in question are not counted. If either chamber opposes the objection, the votes are counted."

9,746 posted on 01/02/2021 8:37:22 PM PST by Spunky
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