Posted on 11/28/2020 9:13:00 PM PST by SeekAndFind
Did the mail-in vote count (2,589,242) in the presidential election in Pennsylvania exceed the actual number of ballots sent to voters (supposedly 1,823,148) and were 1,126,940 votes "created out of thin air"? No, that's not true: The Pennsylvania Department of State's website for election returns shows that about 2.6 million mail-in ballots had indeed been counted as of November 27,2020. More than 3 million voters had requested mail-in ballots as of the October 27, 2020 deadline, according to a news release the same day from Governor Tom Wolf's office. The 1,823,148 number appears to be the number of mail-in ballots requested for the June 2, 2020 primary election in Pennsylvania, not the November 3, 2020 election.
The claim appeared in an Instagram post (archived here) published November 26, 2020 showing a Rogan O'Handley tweet that read:
Today at the Pennsylvania election hearings, we learned that 1.8 million absentee ballots were mailed out for the 2020 election
Do you know how many were counted?
2.5 million
I'm no genius, but I'm pretty sure ***700,000** phantom votes is evidence of
Widespread FRAUD
(Source: Instagram screenshot Thursday, November 26 13:31 UTC 2020)
Similar claims were made in an Instagram post on November 26, 2020.
(Source: Instagram screenshot Thursday, November 26 13:31 UTC 2020)
The same false claim was later tweeted by Senator Doug Mastriano (archived here) and subsequently retweeted by President Trump:
The 1,126,940 votes were created out of thin air. I won Pennsylvania by a lot, perhaps more than anyone will ever know. The Pennsylvania votes were RIGGED. All other swing states also. The world is watching! https://t.co/zmnk34Ny23 -- Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 28, 2020
President-elect Joe Biden received 1,995,691 mail-in votes, according to The Pennsylvania Department of State elections website on November 27, 2020. President Donald Trump received 595,538 in mail-in votes. Libertarian Party candidate Jo Jorgensen received 24,783, for a total of 2,616,012 mail-in votes. The website states that "These vote totals do not include any votes from mail ballots received between 8 p.m. on election day and 5 p.m. the following Friday."
The website's numbers show that the claims made in the above Instagram posts don't stack up because they fail to state the correct number of mail-in ballots requested: more than 3 million.
The number "1,823,148" probably originated when someone tried to look up the number of Pennsylvania mail-in ballot requests and landed on a page listing statistics for the June 2, 2020 primary election in that state, for example a page like this (archived here). It shows a dataset provided by the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania described as:
This dataset describes a current state of mail ballot requests for the 2020 primary election. It's a snapshot in time of the current volume of ballot requests across the Commonwealth.
Specifically, it contains a table that lists the exact number of mail ballot requests for that election:
As you can see, this is not data about the November 3, 2020 Presidential election.
Thanks anyway for the information.
So-o-o-o-o-o-o, President Trump beat Sleepy Joe in the Primary?
Every County in PA is called Adams County?
The 1.8 million figure represents the number of mail-in ballots that Pennsylvania reported had been requested by persons registered as Democrats as of the voter registration deadline of Oct. 19. That figure did not include the hundreds of thousands of mail-in ballots that were also requested by persons registered as Republicans (or persons registered with third parties affiliations or with no party affiliation) as of that date:
The deadline for requesting mail-in ballots was several days later (Oct. 27), and by then
over 3 million mail-in ballots were requested, of which over 2.6 million were ultimately returned by the specified deadline for ballot counting:
The numbers reiterated by Trump and his supporters in an attempt to prove election fraud in Pennsylvania bore no relationship to the total of mail-in votes recorded in that state and were not proof of any type of malfeasance or major error in vote-counting.
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All these tick tock booms sure are turning out to be duds. Who’s working for our side, Inspector Clouseau?
This is the spin carried by the traitors and their useful idiots (sorry).
The 1.8 million was mailed out for BOTH THE PRIMARY AND THEN AGAIN FOR THE GENERAL.
The primary data is available for view as is all PA data but the data for the general has been locked up. Obviously, PA government does not want public viewing data that is under investigation.
Giuliani has the goods on these people. Don’t worry, he knows what he’s doing.
RE: Thanks anyway for the information.
Yes, There were a lot of voter fraud going on in PA. But it does our side no good to keep citing wrong information. That’s why I started this thread, to get the facts right.
Agree.
Trump gets twice as many votes as Biden on Election Day, but Joe’s mail in vote count is four times higher than Donald’s?
The odds on that happening are pretty much nil.
Regardless of what SNOPES says about this particular item, true or false, SNOPES is a tainted source of truth. I would not use them for anything, even if they are accurate in a particular instance.
How is the number of mail ballots requested a state secret? What is the crooked governor hiding?
Snopes is a left wing activist site disguised as fact checker.
Onward to the SCOTUS.
Snopes is democrat.
> SNOPES is a tainted source of truth <
Right, cal. I only use Snopes as a source of amusement. If a news story makes a liberal look bad, they will twist and turn to make that liberal look good.
And if a news story makes a conservative look good, they will twist and turn to make that conservative look bad.
If you navigate over to Open Data PA, you can get a list of data sets. On the list you will find Pronary elelction data and click on it. Then you can view all the 1.8 million or so data lines in pages of 100 each and you can export it to a csv file etc.
Then you go back and scroll down the datasets list and you come to the General Election Data and you try to open it and it says you don’t have permission to access it. It’s the only one out of the entire list with that lockup status.
And it’s not because things are getting tidied up for publication or something because you read about the primary data and it was updated as it came in, it was always open for viewing.
So what’s happening now is the Left is attacking Giuliani saying he’s stupid because his claim about overcounting came from the primary data. No, it did not. Giuliani has the eaw general election data. He’s not stupid. He’s actually brilliant.
All eyes on Justice Alito, right?
Snopes is for dopes. Some “fact-checkers” need fact-checking.
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