Posted on 11/17/2020 7:06:00 AM PST by SeekAndFind
There are somewhat similar concepts you can use to get in touch with your subconcious thought processes.
I played around with one a bit 40+ years ago. It gave some surprising and surprisingly accurate answers to questions.
Nothing which seemed supernatural, simply things that did not seem likely, from a personal perspective, which later turned out to be absolutely correct.
Again,not prophesy, but attitudes and preferences which became important.
i never get the title to this book correct but in the “darker side of supernatural” the researchers found that this and drugs were the fastest way to demon possession. like many teens, i used one of these with a group of my girlfriends. every time i was near the thing, it would say, “i hate you” repeatedly. needless to say, i didn’t use it for long.
Anyone who believes an inanimate hunk of metal can kill someone is just dumb...
It's not the board itself, so much as the intent to communicate with spirits...which is warned against in Scripture:
"Or a charmer or a medium or a necromancer or one who inquires of the dead, for whoever does these things is an abomination to the Lord. And because of these abominations the Lord your God is driving them out before you.
Deuteronomy 18:11-12
"Be sober-minded; be watchful. Your adversary the devil prowls around like a roaring lion, seeking someone to devour."
1 Peter 5:8
oh that’s cute. Stupid. But cute.
It isn’t the tool...it is those who wield it...
But a $20 mass produced toy is NOT a tool. It’s freaking Monopoly for people who can’t do math.
Ouija boards are demonstrably more trustworthy than Dominion election systems. Would the courts accept Ouija boards to count votes?
I believe Satan is real and he has many minions at his command. I believe demonic possession is real but it is more in line with stories from the New Testament where it is by-and-large freakish, uncontrolled behavior. I believe there are those under demonic influence (different from possession) who can and do act normally but do evil. I believe it is possible to invite in dark spirits as well as it is possible to cast them from you.
Because of my personal beliefs, I choose to avoid anything I consider trifling with Satanism, be that a game, movie, music, novels, etc. I don’t believe any such activity will result in possession, but I believe it can open one to influence from the dark side of supernaturalism and that can have devastating effects on a person and those around him or her. Everyone has a right to make their own decisions.
If one doesn't believe in the preternatural or supernatural, then one can be excused for not taking seriously the struggle between the good and the dark forces that goes on around us.
For the rest of us, however, we know that the dark forces (the Devil and his minions) hate us and will use any device to try and influence us to, if not turn to evil, to abandon the fight against evil. This includes the media, politics, and inanimate objects like drugs, pornography and, yes, Ouija boards.
My personal evidence is anecdotal, of course, but I've know both people that played with Ouija boards and nothing happened to them, and those that played with them and suffered disturbing and sometimes dire effects.
Many exorcists have noted that if you open yourself up to the Devil, he will take you up on your invitation. Some of these gateways include the media (especially pornography) and occult practices (like New Age, mediums, psychics, etc). The book and movie, "The Exorcist" was based on a true and well documented case (except the possessed child was a boy) and, yes, his troubles started with his using a Ouija board while staying in his aunts home.
Please...tools do not have to be expensive or well made to be effective.
If you don’t believe in other realms, fine. I am guessing that you are not a Christian or a Jew since the Bible has several accounts of interactions of a supernatural nature. By being dismissive, you are being disrespectful of those who do believe.
Does a string of cheap beads with a charm in the shape of a man being tortured have significance?
Is a bunch of paper and ink bound in leather worthy of respect?
There are objects that help us focus on our Creator and Savior and their are objects that help us focus on His counterpart.
Choose wisely.
"I steered the pointer around myself, so I know it's fake.
LOL. You mean you know it was fake in your particular situation.
But it’s NOT A TOOL. It’s a TOY. A stupid toy that has NO PROVEN effectiveness for doing ANYTHING.
I’m disrespecting MORONS who believe stupid crap. Being a Christian doesn’t mean you can’t use your brain and realize that there’s nothing to a ouija board. It’s a just a dumb little chunk of plastic and a cardboard. All your false equivalencies show even you know it’s junk.
If it was real the blindfolded upside down board test would work. But it doesn’t. Every time you blindfold the users and flip the board they go to all the wrong spots.
I’ve chose wisely. So can you. God gave you higher reasoning faculties for a reason. USE THEM.
OUIJA boards work because of a phenomena called ideomotor response.
The human mind has the inherent ability to split into multiple parts, each of which may not be consciously aware of the others.
I know how odd it seems but people do it a lot.
From Wikipedia ------------ The ideomotor phenomenon is a psychological phenomenon wherein a subject makes motions unconsciously. Also called ideomotor response (or ideomotor reflex) and abbreviated to IMR, it is a concept in hypnosis and psychological research.[2]
It is derived from the terms "ideo" (idea, or mental representation) and "motor" (muscular action). The phrase is most commonly used in reference to the process whereby a thought or mental image brings about a seemingly "reflexive" or automatic muscular reaction, often of minuscule degree, and potentially outside of the awareness of the subject.
As in reflexive responses to pain, the body sometimes reacts reflexively with an ideomotor effect to ideas alone without the person consciously deciding to take action. The effects of automatic writing, dowsing, facilitated communication, and Ouija boards have been attributed to the phenomenon.
People who use Morse code sometimes become aware of this phenomenon. Morse is an obsolete method of communication these days so those noticing this effect are mainly Ham Radio operators.
If you lose your train of thought while sending Morse your subconscious can sometimes fill in the rest of the message without the direction of the conscious mind.... this has been referred to as "Brass Doodling" (Morse keys were once made mostly of brass metal)
In psychiatry ideomotor response is sometimes used as a way to get info from the subconscious using finger responses. It is a simple technique where the hand is rested palm-up and slight movements of the fingers signal answers such as "No", "yes", "I don't know"..etc
Some people use the finger responses to help when taking multiple choice examinations...ie if the pinky twitches the answer is A or 1, if the ring finger twitches it is B or 2...and so on. The idea is the subconscious has better access to memory than the conscious mind.
Ideomotor response is a rather odd but very common phenomena that hints at abilities we all possess but rarely utilize or take notice of.
Isn't the question actually "can trying to reach the spirit world be dangerous?"
Exorcists tell us that it is.
Not sure if it matters whether a Quiji board is used or not.
BTW, the Swiss psychiatrist Carl Jung used a planchette (Quiji board pointer/writer) for "automatic writing" in an effort to reach his own unconscious mind and the "collective unconscious."
It’s a mass produced piece of cardboard and plastic.
Case of mind over matter.
You are half right. The problem is not the board. The board is just a vehicle for the problematic heart, which always goes seeking what God has forbidden. Look at Eve in the Garden of Eden. God gave her every tree in the garden except the one tree, and which one did she go for? The one tree. Any heart that goes seeking demons (whether she calls them demons, or knowledge, or ghosts, or whatever) will find demons.
That’s a great post, thanks.
They say that if you put a million monkeys in front of a million typewriters one of them will eventually type out the works of Shakespeare.
I think the Ouija phenomenon is similar: with so many units sold it's inevitable that sometimes real words will be spelled out that will dovetail with events in the lives of those playing the game.
This will happen even more often if people "cheat" and force the Ouija board to spell out the words they want.
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