Dominion and the Voting Machines

Self | 12 Novembr 2020 | elf

[ShadowAce]

I've been on FR for 20 years now (as of 11/29/2020), and many of you know me through my Tech Pings.

While I am not in any way a politician, I have been in charge of computers systems in both the financial and medical sector, and I have some questions about Dominion that some of you may be able to answer.

I have been in charge of systems (with companies you would all know, and some you would not know at all) that process 160 million financial accounts in a single night--every night of the week, every week of the year. This would include all the activities you would expect in a financial transaction--approval, withdrawals, deposits, contacting various *other* financial institutions to be sure both sides of the transaction were properly accounted for. It's how our economy works. This was back in the 90's, so I know that the ability to do so now has only been enhanced. This kind of load would not make any modern system even breathe hard. No state that I am aware of has that large of a population, so the processing would be quite a bit faster.

My experience in the medical IT field has also be extensive. This includes transactions that contain information that is highly confidential--more so that the financial ones--due to HIPAA. Both experiences include heavy experience with databases and other forms of data retention.

Here's my question.

We have all heard of a "glitch" in Dominion systems that flipped votes from GOP to Dem (never the reverse), yet media (even those on "our" side (Newsmax, OAN, etc)) never bring up this point--WHAT IN THE HECK IS DOMINION DOING?

Votes are supposed to be static pieces of information. NEVER should be "processed" AT ALL!

Votes, once cast, should be read-only database records, UNABLE TO BE CHANGED BY ANY MEANS!

So tell me again--what possible "glitch" could have caused this, and WHY did the software allow any data manipulation at all?

Secondarily, why do machine vote counts take so long?

[ShadowAce]

Tech Ping

[Honorary Serb]

“It’s not a bug , it’s a feature!”

[ClearCase_guy]

To ask the question is to answer it.

Their SW is malicious. It’s not that it makes mistakes, it’s that it does things that it shouldn’t do at all.

[fwdude]

You can program computers to do anything, even unethical things.

[Dan in Wichita]

I'm not sure FR is to best place to bring a question like this.

If you get 20 replies, that means you'll get 20 different answers to the same question.

[rlbedfor]

Watched a presentation of how votes are actually tabulated. It is an IT security nightmare. If banks kept track of money this way, they would be shut down. It was an investigation in Dallas voting.

[Golden Eagle]

Hopefully you won’t eventually try to turn this thread into some sort of Linux religion sermon.

If not, here’s a tweet you might be Interested in.

https://twitter.com/AOECOIN/status/1326396193631559685

#Dominion Instruction Manual shows how to:
-Hack it’s software
-Feed it “test stacks” with only Biden marked
-Can those be counted as legitimate results? YES.
-Were they? YES.
-Can Purge ENTIRE BATCHES of #Trump votes.
AND THEY DID ALL OF IT

[Qiviut]

Check this out ....

Hammer and Scorecard - From the Censored YouTube WarRoom Episode 470
https://rumble.com/vaz2ih-hammer-and-scorecard-from-the-censored-youtube-warroom-episode-470.html

[rigelkentaurus]

Dominion software / hardware was designed to be a platform wide open for tampering. Tampering is built in. How to tamper on a small scale is even explained in the user manual as a feature. Overseas servers - just wow. Editable audit files just make me speechless. Hackable in under 2 minutes with a cell phone from outside the building.

The only way Dominion could be so simple to attack in so many ways (actually every conceivable way) is for it to have been created to be so. The worst designers and programmers in the entire world would have made a more secure system.

[rlbedfor]

Hand count. The damn voting machines are hooked up to the internet so that can send their count to the cloud and Spain for tabulation and then to the state official vote count, ap, and decisiondeskhq for the press. They have security holes the size of Hillary’s ego, and very poor logging. Shared ssl certicates, not patched, already compromised, etc.

[joshua c]

Loosy Goosy, Eazy Peazy

[Maelstorm]

I’ve worked in what is now called “big data” for over 20 years. Glitches like that don’t occur. What does happen is someone may manually do something incorrectly and then it be called a glitch to make it sound nicer. If they have voting machines that can glitch and flip thousands of votes then those that purchased these machines are either fools or willing idiots desiring that outcome. A secure vote scanning machine should never be able to glitch in such a fashion.

[kdr3]

Glitch usually refers to hardware.
The Dominion problem is in the software - (computer program).
Example of good code:
If candidate name = Biden then add 1 to Biden counter.
If candidate name - Trump then add 1 to Trump counter.

Bad Code:
If candidate name = Biden then add 1 to Biden counter.
If candidate name - Trump then add 1 to Biden counter.

There is nothing wrong with either of the examples, they both will work fine.
The good code will provide a count for the different candidates.
The bad code will count Biden for Biden and Trump for Biden.

[Al B.]

State of Texas basically said hell no to the Dominion system. Here is their evaluation from Oct. 2019:

Voting System Examination Dominion Voting Systems Democracy Suite 5.5-A

[ShadowAce]

To ask the question is to answer it.

Yeah--that was kinda my point.

[semimojo]

FWIW all the election officials deny there's any software problem. The "glitch" in Michigan was human error.

"Dominion voting machines tallied the Antrim County votes correctly, but ElectionSource software used to combine the results from individual voting machines was not properly configured, according to Benson’s office.

“As with other unofficial results reporting errors, this was an honest mistake and did not affect any actual vote totals,” the Department of State said. “Election clerks work extremely hard and do their work with integrity. They are human beings, and sometimes make mistakes. However, there are many checks and balances that ensure mistakes can be caught and corrected.”"

[M Kehoe]

+1

5.56mm

[z3n]

You bring up a great point.

Banks and merchant services handle billions of transactions per day nationwide, and 99.99% of them are secure. The only time there is fraud is when there is human error or malice, usually at the data entry level, not within the data transmission/encryption/storage systems.

The big exception is when merchants themselves do not secure customer purchase data, such as Target/Home Depot several years back, but the fault was on the retailer systems, not the transaction systems themselves.

The only reason our voting system is fallible and and exploitable is because it was designed to be that way. There are examples of systems that are rarely exploited all around us. Airline passenger check-ins would be another example.

[Bryan24]

If the machine reads a paper ballot, the excess recount time is to feed ballots into the machine.

What we are learning is that the electronic voting era has been designed to cheat.

Vote with paper ballots. Ballots can be electronically scanned or manually counted. Ballots should be serialized. Absentee ballots are marked as absentee and are different than in person with serial numbers. Provisional ballots should be clearly marked and serialized.