Posted on 11/11/2020 8:16:55 AM PST by struggle
This showed up on twitter so take it for what it's worth.
Giuliani said on Steve Bannon's WarRoom podcast that whistleblowers from Dominion have come forward.
If it's true, then the DNC is absolute chaos right now.
Rolling it back on every machine would be hard. Even if it was a built-in function it would leave traces unless done perfectly. They couldn’t be certain they would not be discovered and that they would get every machine. So they probably limited it to certain machines they felt they could control access to after the fact, and just used those to run up the score for Biden. In which case it likely was erased at the same time the ballot dumps occurred. But are they that smart? I doubt it. Their vote-switching software didn’t anticipate the Trump turnout, so they had to call in a ballot dump in desperation. They overreached and they are caught.
I agree with this, but even if you discover traces of suspect code... maybe they used an update Nuget library and didn't roll those back... it would be a real chore to translate your suspicions from Technese to People Talk, to be able to convince a judge.
There’s a simple, non-technical solution to determine whether or not Dominion software was intentionally changing votes.
Simply do a recount. Don’t use the Dominion software again to tally. Add things the old-fashioned way - spreadsheet, adding machine, etc..preferably something with a print-out that can be independently inspected and verified by both parties.
If the original count used Dominion, and Dominion was indeed changing votes, and you do a second count WITHOUT Dominion in the mix, this will determine whether Dominion did, in fact, change votes.
It’s so simple, really. Surprised others that are actually in a position to do something about it haven’t already figured this out..
Trump and his legal team are building a rock-solid case. I’m convinced of that.
If there are actual coders who were involved in coding the bad update, that might be something. Odd that they would turn, though....
They did this, did a smallish recount with the machine vs. hand count, and there was a 6000 vote Biden advantage.
FR is not an echo chamber. We may all believe in the same principles but we have very different opinions and outlooks on current events.
One of the reasons I come here is because I know there will be lively discussion and arguments from the very diverse people here.
Isn’t there some servers in Frankfurt, Germany involved in tabulating votes and perhaps illegally switching amounts on their return data feeds? Anyone have more accurate info about this?
“Statistical and mathematical analyses will NOT hold up in court as proof.”
They have in the past.
If your argument were correct, it would toss all the DNA evidence ever used in court out the window. Fingerprints, too. Speeding tickets. Bullet trajectories. Pretty much any anti-trust case. The whole of forensic science is built on statistics. So do a little THINKing, yourself.
guliani gave more info..but i cant recall exactly..i will look for it. troubleshooter i think.
I’d like to know where and when Giuliani has ‘failed to deliver’.
What I see is an information war with an enemy controlling via ownership and operatives most of the major information outlets in the US.
What I see is Giuliani pumping out information and having it edited out. I see Giuliani frequently complaining how he does one thing and the fake news says he does another.
The question for you. “is Giuliani’s perceived failure a result of a genuine failure to deliver or an edited omission by fake news?”
If you don’t know, that’s Ok, just write “I don’t know”. That would be honest.
I worked on a compromise recovery team for a large organization about a year ago. The investigations team had dozens of witness statements that code was deliberately sabotaged by developers to cause the compromise. When we were going over code, everything looked buttoned up and appropriate. There was no evidence of sabotage despite all of those witnesses, many of whom were developers themselves, saying there was.
In all likelihood, the bad actors covered their tracks when they knew digital forensics teams were going to pore over everything. Forget that they had terrible code management and security practices, those facts likely aided the bad actors in covering their tracks.
Don't assume that witness statements are going to result in definitive proof. They often don't.
What about the touch screens? Without a paper ballot, is there any way to detect tampering.
These statistical anomalies and other data are definitely probable cause. That is why audits must be done and not just recounts.
Thank God we have Republican control in some of these state houses.
“ Ugh. Giuliani has failed to deliver quite a few times.”
Name any
I feel sorry for people who don’t knownwho Rudy Giuliani is
Again. Stop with the self-congratulatory personal aggrandizement. We’re all enjoying the show from an environment where like-minded individuals come to talk. The real world is likely to bitchslap everyone who thinks that everything we believe in this forum is how the end result is going to play out.
Not saying in any way, shape, or form that Biden is or should win, but I’d rather err on the side of pragmatism. Let’s wait for the legal case to be made. Otherwise, everything posted here is just meant to give us a hit of that dopamine like a rat hitting a button for kibble.
Actually you could fix it with a hand recount and old fashion calculators. What it would show, however, is purposeful manipulation to falsify the final declared count.
Judge Timothy Kenny has ruled against our side recently. I did read the filing that credibly alleges all kinds of wrongdoing, but far as I can tell this guy is a liberal and for that reason I’d suspect he’s going to say “no proof” (even though there IS proof) and dismiss.
I’d guess this is ultimately headed to the MI Court of Appeals and possibly the MI Supreme Court pretty quickly. Unfortunately, the liberals just took over the MI Supreme Court, 4-3. Not sure when their term starts, though..hopefully Jan 1 2021?
Posted earlier what the whistle blower who worked for Dominion says.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3904823/posts
PA is an easy legal win. This gives us MI.
On to WI and A-Z ....
“I’ll cede that one. I’ve never bothered, so I don’t really know for sure. While you can certainly decompile, you’ll not have really easy-to-understand variable names, and you’d have to hope you assign the right intent to each one.”
The names of the variables are for the convenience of the people that read the code more than for the people that write it. They are arbitrary. Trying to hide the function of the code with misleading variable names won’t work on any competent programmer - they test you on that in real programming classes with sadistic professors, I know this first hand. The decompiler can assign any name they want.
However, witnesses most times are hard evidence. There has also been statistical analysis done by, among others, an MIT professor. Yes its not definitive but it is another straw on the camels back. This isn’t a criminal trial. At the least the witnesses and statistical analysis will get a hand recount and audit most likely. That will be enough...
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