Chinese Noodles Not the Inspiration for Pasta, Historians Say

AsiaOne ^ | NOVEMBER 06, 2020 | SILVIA MARCHETTI

[nickcarraway]

You owe me $10k for posting this.

[Larry Lucido]

So when was fusilli invented?

[dp0622]

ROfL!!!

too many revelations, good ones for one night

i’ll overload!!!

I emailed you....it’s a little long..what’s new lol

[gundog]

Beat me to it. :)

[Paladin2]

They both sound like a variation of a Breakfast Burrito...

[Bullish]

Jeeze, I’m so glad to hear that’s settled. I couldn’t hardly sleep at night.

[mylife]

I never understood the fascination with pasta, I guess it makes a turd, but seriously its flour eggs and salt.

[Jeepers43]

The ancient Romans and Greeks also used garum, which is/was a fermented fish sauce similar to that widely served on every Asian dining table to this day. I understand that some contemporary chefs add this “secret” ingredient to their Italian dishes.

[vis a vis]

It is the vehicle for the yummy toppings. Cream,garlic,butter,tomatoes, basil, clams etc

[SunkenCiv]

I think pasta originated in the Ramen Empire.

[Adder]

Thanks.
I blanch every time I hear it said that pasta is of Chinese origin...Italians already had a word for the stuff when...and if...it was brought back from China.

[Bringbackthedraft]

Even if it was made in China first, the Italians turned it into an art. Now go find me a box of Ochi Di Lupo that I grew up with in NYC. Ronzoni no longer makes them and La Rosa disappeared years ago. What are they? Rigatoni with no lines. ;)

[lizma2]

Early Worcestershire sauce?

[granada]

Pay tribute to Marco Polo

[Ruy Dias de Bivar]

***It is true that Marco Polo did spend several years in China,***

This is what we were taught in school up through the 1960s.

Then in the 1990s came the claim that Marco Polo never was in China and his book was a fabrication by someone else.

Now he’s back again? So hard to keep up with what the current “historians” want you to believe.

[pjd]

An Italian kid comes home from school one day and tells his dad that his teacher said pasta was invented in China. The dad thinks for a minute and says, “Think about it, son.
In China, they eat with chop sticks, right?”
“Yeah.”
“I rest my case.”

[SunkenCiv]

Thanks nickcarraway.

[SunkenCiv]

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• Keywords: handynasty romansinchina

[Grimmy]

I think pasta originated in the Ramen Empire.

*******

That is a common mythconception.

The Ramen Empire was created by a bunch of nomadic noodlers that set up shop in the desert and made travel rations for people wandering the Spicy Road. They’re also the people that mutated trees to grow seasoning packets.