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Early trauma influences metabolism across generations
University of Zurich via EurekAlert ^ | 15-Oct-2020 | Dr. Isabelle Mansuy

Posted on 10/31/2020 7:19:37 PM PDT by fluorescence

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I thought this was interesting in light of the now very long-running situation of Democrats terrorizing the general public, especially children in Democrat indoctrination camps a.k.a. "public schools", with scare campaigns like "you only have 10 years left before climate change kills you and the planet turns into Venus", "we are ruled by a cabal of Russian agents who stole our democracy", "Trump is a fascist dictator who's sending your friends to concentration camps", "because you have white skin you are a racist and also inferior and you have to keep apologizing forever", "we'll all die from coronavirus unless you never go outside again", burning down cities and normalizing widespread violent crime against individuals, and so on.

While the article refers particularly to major stress (being orphaned), chronic low-level stress adds up and Democrats could very well be creating a long-term public health issue. Of course, that's just how they want people - weakened from chronic sickness and dependent on the state.

1 posted on 10/31/2020 7:19:37 PM PDT by fluorescence
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To: fluorescence

My parents both had days when they had nothing to eat as children during the Great Depression. They never forgot it and saturated their children with it. When I was a kid I fully expected to starve to death some day. Still do.


2 posted on 10/31/2020 7:22:41 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a totalitarian death cult founded by a child rapist.)
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To: fluorescence

My mom told me I’d go blind from...

ah forget it.

But it may explain a lot of my later issues :)

I can still see though.

Lost some hearing


3 posted on 10/31/2020 7:25:52 PM PDT by dp0622 (Tried a coup, a fake tax story, tramp slander, Russia nonsense, impeachment and a virus. They lost.)
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To: fluorescence

If trauma is passed on through generations then trauma is universal.


4 posted on 10/31/2020 7:29:10 PM PDT by coaster123 (Be prepared to puke blood sometime in the next 30 hours.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

So how do we explain Audrey Hepburn who had to eat bulbs during the war and never looked as though she ate much else?


5 posted on 10/31/2020 7:30:33 PM PDT by Aria (-)
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To: Aria

I have no idea what that means.


6 posted on 10/31/2020 7:31:51 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a totalitarian death cult founded by a child rapist.)
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To: fluorescence
this is the first time that a connection between early trauma and metabolic disorders in descendants is characterized,”

I do not think that is true. Studies before WW2 were showing that starvation of a mother affected subsequent metabolism of descendants. During WW2 Belgian famine, reduced caloric intake of the mother affected the body weight of the child into adulthood. It's interesting, if the starvation occurred during the first trimester or the third, the offspring ended up overweight or thin. The difference was about 20 pounds. There are many more studies.

7 posted on 10/31/2020 7:32:59 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: E. Pluribus Unum; fluorescence

That is a learned behavior.

I am surprised this article did not include the study done on flat worms.

Flat worms (playhelminthes) were kept in the dark, a light was turned on, then a shock was administered. (similar to Dr. Bateman’s experiments).

Those worms were ground up and fed to worms not so conditioned. The worms fed the shocked worms recoiled when a light was turned, similar to as if they were anticipating the shock to follow.


8 posted on 10/31/2020 7:33:25 PM PDT by Cold Heart (Portland Voted for IT)
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To: coaster123

That’s a relief. I was worried because I was sexually abused by my father when I was younger.

But you make a good point.

And for the other FReeper who points out that we are frightening our children...that is true as well.

We are creating a generation of people who will be scared of their own shadow.


9 posted on 10/31/2020 7:35:39 PM PDT by proud American in Canada (In these trying times, "Give me Liberty or Give me Death!")
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Well, after nearly starving to death you’d think she wouldn’t have been close to anorexic as an adult. Although...I’m not sure what this means either but it’s something I’ve always wondered about.


10 posted on 10/31/2020 7:36:24 PM PDT by Aria (-)
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To: fluorescence

I was traumatically mis-gendered as a child./s


11 posted on 10/31/2020 7:36:59 PM PDT by dynachrome (The panic will end, the tyranny will not)
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To: fluorescence

I was critically injured in a car accident at age 3. I’m now 74. I’m ok. My kids are ok. My grandkids are ok. The hypothesis fails.


12 posted on 10/31/2020 7:41:57 PM PDT by rexthecat (nks!)
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"My parents both had days when they had nothing to eat as children during the Great Depression. They never forgot it and saturated their children with it. When I was a kid I fully expected to starve to death some day. Still do."

Same here. I think my son may have escaped.

13 posted on 10/31/2020 7:42:43 PM PDT by blam
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

During WWII the Dutch actually ate tulip bulbs when they were facing starvation otherwise.

Turns out, tulip bulbs are edible.


14 posted on 10/31/2020 7:55:12 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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Yes, there’s a famous story from the great Dutch Tulip Mania of a sailor that picked up and bit into what he thought was an onion...only it was some super-rare and valuable tulip bulb.


15 posted on 10/31/2020 8:05:51 PM PDT by M1903A1 ("We shed all that is good and virtuous for that which is shoddy and sleazy...and call it progress")
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To: metmom

I really thought the posted story was looking for a way to justify or validate the current Snowflakes in our culture.


16 posted on 10/31/2020 8:12:15 PM PDT by Deaf Smith (When a Texan takes his chances, chances will be taken that's for sure)
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To: fluorescence

If our physical and mental conditions are in any way dictated by the trauma suffered by our ancestors, then...

Why haven’t we all regressed to being ape-like and incapable of surviving and incapable of handling ourselves?

Apparently, the modern world is a myth and there have been no technological advances in any field. Or, it must be extraterrestrial aliens that did it all.


17 posted on 10/31/2020 8:33:13 PM PDT by adorno
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To: metmom

I wonder if they taste good? Maybe a they could become a delicacy, or maybe they have health benefits?


18 posted on 10/31/2020 8:41:16 PM PDT by Bellflower (Who dares believe Jesus? He says absolutely amazing things, which few dare consider.)
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To: fluorescence

Reminds me of Exodus 34:7

... visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children, and upon the children’s children, unto the third and to the fourth generation.


19 posted on 10/31/2020 8:42:12 PM PDT by Auntie Mame (Fear not tomorrow. God is already there.)
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To: ladyjane

The Dutch found a similar correlation: after the war, they noticed the population of Rotterdam exposed to the 1940 bombing had a statistically higher rate of heart attacks even after correcting for other factors. Then hey noticed their children did also.


20 posted on 10/31/2020 8:55:14 PM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens")
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