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October Surprise Rumors

Posted on 10/30/2020 11:15:38 AM PDT by Blogger

Was just asked the question

Some people are talking about an October surprise going to be pulled against POTUS either Sunday night or Monday. Have you heard anything?

I have not. Has anyone else?


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To: billyboy15
At the State level it would likely be about Trumps claims of the value of his NY holdings for purposes of RE taxes.

That's not how the real property tax system works in New York. The local tax assessor, who is a public officer, determines the value of the real property for tax purposes in the first instance. The owner of the real property has no say in this initial determination. Once the assessment rolls for the municipality are released, the owner can file a tax grievance alleging that the properties are over-assessed. The grievance is then determined by the Board of Assessment Review. In most cases, the initial assessment is affirmed. The owner then has a very short time to commence a legal action challenging the assessment in the court system. The owner has the burden of proof and must submit a certified appraisal to the court from a qualified independent appraiser. For commercial properties, the appraisal report will include three methods of determining value: Comparative sales of similar properties; the cost of reconstructing the improvement on the property less depreciation, and the capitated income the that property generates based upon the present value of a future stream of income. The burden then shifts to the taxing authority, who must also submit a certified appraisal using the three methods of valuation.

Other than bribery, the only way for a landowner to cheat the system is to provide false information to the appraiser with respect to the income that the real property generates, but that is highly unlikely given the independence of the appraiser and the red flags that would go up if the assessed value based on capitalized income is significantly different than the assessed value based on comparative sales and reproduction costs. To cheat on his real property taxes, Trump would have to fool the assessor, board of assessment review, two independent appraisers, and the trial judge.

141 posted on 10/30/2020 12:07:25 PM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: miserare

Yes. And actually it’s an even stronger point. David was an adulterer but he was a great leader.


142 posted on 10/30/2020 12:07:30 PM PDT by edwinland
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To: Blogger

Yes there were rumors on conspiracy sites that a damaging but fake story about Trump would be run by 2 news sources as a last minute effort to damage the President

Hopefully Trump is prepared to retaliate if this happens
I think most voters are so jaded by the press they see through this stuff


143 posted on 10/30/2020 12:07:46 PM PDT by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change.)
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To: Chauncey Gardiner
“We have peectures nekkid Trump”

In these days of photoshop, who's going to believe them?

144 posted on 10/30/2020 12:08:01 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Blogger

If this were something like an arrest, Bill O’Reilly would have not singled out the NYT and WaPo. It would be over all newspapers. I think it is speculation. More or less “you know they’re going to pull something to dominate the news Monday and Tuesday.


145 posted on 10/30/2020 12:08:22 PM PDT by Blogger (Prayers for our President, First Lady and Republic.)
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To: silverleaf

Which conspiracy sites?


146 posted on 10/30/2020 12:09:05 PM PDT by Blogger (Prayers for our President, First Lady and Republic.)
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To: Maringa

Maringa wrote:

SDNY - arrest warrant. Tax evasion.

______________________

Wouldn’t you justlove to see some rogue federal agency try and arrest President Trump… That would be fun.

lol.... I’m afraid it would be time to get up out of this chair....:)


147 posted on 10/30/2020 12:09:40 PM PDT by RevelationDavid (Don't just 'know about God'...... KNOW GOD....!)
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To: Blogger

Just listened- its pure speculation on the part of O’Rielly and Hannity jokingly agrees...

It doesn’t sound that they know anything specifically forthcoming rather, “just as the sun rises from he east, you know the NYSlimes and WaComPost is going to drop an anti-Trump story on Sunday.”


148 posted on 10/30/2020 12:10:31 PM PDT by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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To: pnz1

There have been such reports. Given the level of persuasion needed to move those voters, I doubt one last minute vapid claim will send them back.


149 posted on 10/30/2020 12:10:38 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (Interesting how those so interested in workERS are so disinterested in workING.)
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To: BeauBo

Anyway, who would care? I lived through a couple of Trump’s sensational divorces in NY, and the thing that always puzzled me is why he didn’t marry somebody nice. I think he finally did, with Melania, but the other women were basically just gold diggers. However, they eventually ended up on amicable terms, more or less.

Trump was never accepted in New York society except as a wealthy man who might be a donor, no matter how much he did for NYC, and I never knew exactly why. I grew up there - on the Upper West Side, no less - and Trump was a presence. He’s from Queens, as are many people who work in or run businesses in Manhattan, but he was very committed to the city and did a huge amount of good for it.

Once upon a time NYC loved colorful characters and flash, but then liberalism took over and now it’s all about how PC you can be.


150 posted on 10/30/2020 12:10:44 PM PDT by livius
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To: Blogger

I’m sure the media will thoroughly verify it before reporting on it, Twitter and Facebook will censor it.


151 posted on 10/30/2020 12:11:26 PM PDT by Trumplican
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To: Blogger

They’ve pulled out all the stops. You can’t drop an October surprise in November. They got nothing.


152 posted on 10/30/2020 12:13:51 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (Freep mail me if you want to be on my Fingerstyle Acoustic Guitar Ping List)
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To: Blogger
October is ended.
We've already hasd the October surprise. The Hunter Biden laptop.
153 posted on 10/30/2020 12:14:15 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: livius

Yes...Diamond Jim Brady and Lily Langtry come to mind.


154 posted on 10/30/2020 12:18:49 PM PDT by miserare ( Respect for life--life of all kinds-- is the first principle of civilization.~~A. Schweitzer.)
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To: Labyrinthos

Thank you for the explanation. I agree from what you said that this is probably not what any suit would be. The only other thing would be using a different value on loan applications. But that would be subject to the banks appraiser agreeing to the value Trump assigned to any property he wanted to use as collateral.

This all leads me to believe the NY AG is not going to be the source of any surprise, at least in this area.


155 posted on 10/30/2020 12:19:28 PM PDT by billyboy15
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To: woweeitsme

At this point it would probably be a tape of him saying something derogatory of a minority group or gays, but I would be almost certain it would be a doctored audio of him. As for your first point if that had occurred the Democrats would of released those tapes back in 2016. Trump himself is very careful of his public image, and he would of never run for president if he had engaged in that kind of activity and there was evidence of it. I say it’s another false allegation and a desperate late hour one at that!


156 posted on 10/30/2020 12:19:32 PM PDT by dowcaet
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To: miserare

Absolutely!


157 posted on 10/30/2020 12:21:11 PM PDT by livius
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To: Robert DeLong

2 days before the election, when everyone else has already voted LOL a waste of time..trust me if they had something on Trump they would have released it two weeks ago when it mattered..everyone has voted no one cares anymore


158 posted on 10/30/2020 12:32:41 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: ripnbang

159 posted on 10/30/2020 12:34:21 PM PDT by kanawa ((Trump Loves a Great Deal (NorthernSentinel)))
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To: dowcaet

If they had a tape of Trump saying something bad about a minority group they would have released it weeks ago BEFORE people voted..the majority of the country has already voted, 2 days before the election would be a total waste of time


160 posted on 10/30/2020 12:35:10 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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