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To: DoodleBob; 2ndreconmarine; 21twelve; 444Flyer; AAABEST; A.Hun; Alamo-Girl; alarm rider; Amalie; ...
Infectious Disease Ping - USA re : covid-19 - logical summary of rise of asymptomatic numbers DoodleBob :" There was an excellent article a few weeks ago that null pinged (which I can't find now) regarding the widened definition of a "case."
In short, a case used to be someone who tests positive AND has active symptoms.
Nowadays, for COVID19, we have cases that only test positive with maybe mild symptoms.
This has the effect of "inflating" the case count and distorting statistics and models."

"But it's not like we don't know this is happening...and if you ask usually centrist friends, they'll open up and tell you, they see what's happening too.
And there is the difference. The US isn't being fooled by a handful of puppet masters.
We like to believe in movie fantasies, that there is a cabal of evil men who rule the world. And, to be fair, such evil lurks in men's hearts."

"Are some of the data inflated? Yup. Do I believe there is evil in 2020 seeking to politicize this virus? Of course.
Do I believe there is coordination amongst the evil ones? Yes, especially the MSM.
Do I think they are smart? Lemme see...Connie Corleone, Michigan Medusa, PA's top idiot Woof(sic), NJ's Murphy, the entire staff at MSNBC and CNN...not a high IQ amongst them.
Do I believe they control all the official apparatus and fake all of this? NFW. "

My comment :
The more you test, the higher the numbers of infected you will find; that's only logical !
To hold a population captive over higher numbers of asymptomatic infection at the detriment of the entire population and civilization is illogical.
The disease is so novel, thanks to the actions of the Chinese govt. and WHO, that we don't have established standards for infected, asymptomatic,
and don't even the standards for the reliability of the testing procedure.
Remember the original covid tests that were distributed by the CDC that were found to be defective and inaccurate ?
No wonder the political puppet masters are insisting on holding back the economy and society based on ideology.
They keep moving the goalposts !
Remember when they said the shut down was based on not overwhelming the hospitals and emergency rooms ?
The truth is that the numbers we should be concerned about should be the number of regional deaths,
and the regional numbers of ICU hospital beds treating positive tested covid-19 infections using intubation.
For too long the numbers of covid infection have been used too long for political purposes and social control.

Personally, I will continue to use my mask, but I will tell you to respect my "free agency" for independence and freedom,
while I am still socially responsible around the population who may be at risk.
And yes, I do have comorbities which put me at risk, but I also want to live my life, and not be trapped in a basement by some politician who ignores both the developing science, the society, the economy, and the logic of a lockdown.
Your comments to my response are appreciated.

1,384 posted on 10/11/2020 10:29:28 AM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt
There was an excellent article a few weeks ago that null pinged (which I can't find now) regarding the widened definition of a "case."

This?

1,398 posted on 10/11/2020 11:26:51 AM PDT by null and void (Surely there must be someone on FR who makes bricks! Contact me if that's you!)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt; Tolerance Sucks Rocks; Lazamataz
Nobody has a death wish. But people don't like tyranny. I've heard about grandparents who've said "I'd rather visit with my grandchildren and risk dying than live safely in isolation."

I hope that peole who think this is way overblown, also understand that this is not your average virus. Laz posted this excellent article and it was eye-opening on this regard.

My Lord calls me to be charitable to my fellow man. I will wear a mask at the store, and I'll stay 6' away because I don't know what kind of physical or mental concerns the guy or gal ahead of me is shouldering. But if I'm walking in town and someone yells at me to mask-up, I'll say "thanks Karen" and walk away.

1,527 posted on 10/11/2020 4:45:47 PM PDT by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s^2)
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