Thanks for bringing this question to the new thread. I don’t understand why more on here don’t see what a huge problem it is and will continue to be if police officers aren’t forced to honor their oath. For those who find the mask mandates silly, there is really only one sensible reason to comply, and that is threat of arrest. Some may comply for fear of “karens” but if we expect our kids/grands to withstand peer pressure, as adults we should do no less.
Here is a newscast of the bleacher video It says in the newscast it was because she wasn’t wearing a mask.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6S17AEci08
The christians were not in Aus/NZ but in Moscow Idaho.
This has been going on for awhile. Didn’t you see the Dallas salon owner was arrested for going to work? Or the gym owner for going to work, or the barber for going to work. How about the folks who were arrested for writing on a public sidewalk in chalk in front of a planned parenthood. Or the guy who had to flee protesters trying to pull him out of his car, and got arrested. How about the guy who used a pellet gun on a thief on his property stealing his Trump sign. He got arrested, the thief did not.
What these police officers are doing is illegal. There is no such thing as just following orders. I have never, nor do I know anyone who has ever committed a crime because their boss told them to. The Constitution is the supreme law of the land, and it is illegal for police officers to violate someone’s civil rights. That means all of their rights, not just the 2nd. It doesn’t matter the color of ones skin, or how unsympathetic the victim may be. We either 100% believe in the Constitution or we don’t.
Currently, police have qualified immunity. In other words, if they make a mistake and get sued, the police dept. must pay restitution. Or, in other words, the taxpayer. QI is necessary to protect police from being expected to know every nuance in the law. HOWEVER, if a police officer willingly violates someones Constitution right, he/she should pay it himself. Threat of losing ones job is really not enough, because we don’t know if they will actually be fired or not from a corrupt police force.
Just like threat of arrest makes people comply, threat of losing ones qualified immunity should work as well.
It would not take to many police officers having to pay out 40 to 50k for this nonsense to stop.
There are both incarceration and financial penalties in 18USC242.
The law also makes it clear that the individual is equally culpable along with the agency making the order.
If it is not by gaency order, the individual is culpable as a citizen, not a badge.
“I don’t understand why more on here don’t see what a huge problem it is and will continue to be if police officers aren’t forced to honor their oath”
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Don’t mistake our silence for compliance or that we come from any kind of place that doesn’t see what a HUGE problem it is. I just don’t think we see any way around it right now. I see this as the biggest hoax perpetuated on the world.
I think we also realize that there are huge injustices being played out all over our country and others. Kyle Rittenhouse still sits in jail for shooting in self defense.
I will say these arrests have left my head scratching as I wonder where the Oath Keepers are, where are the police officers willing to buck the system?
I live in east of San Diego and the police won’t arrest the homeless, even if they are breaking the law, because the sheriff’s dept won’t take them.
In many ways, it’s like Biff has the playbook.
CVS has signs on their doors saying masks are required by law. I’ve complained to cashiers and pharmacists that they are lying to their customers.
So, I think I can safely say, that we on here do see that it’s a huge problem. What are the solutions??
Petey
I don’t think it’s the police officers that are the problem but those BEHIND the officers: Chief’s, Sheriff’s, D.A’s
If you don’t have any backup and stand to be charged yourself or you know the person you arrest will be released immediately, what are you going to do. You as an officer have to remember that you have a family and what can they be put through? Who is going to show up in front of your house and harass your children?
The other side has no problem releasing the address & phone numbers of the police officers involved.
It is such a tangled web right now.