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I think that's a mistake. I would welcome media attention, and maybe even encourage it. Having the courage to flout Caesar should be a visible example to all. And every cause needs it martyrs.

I see your point and am open to that myself. What I've watched for about 6 weeks is we keep having more people every week to come hear and participate. We are showing by example that nobody needs to follow the mask, social distancing, no touching roolz. When you're getting the truth to people and the local cops aren't hassling you, do you call in media from some distant real city? Think of it this way, if God wants one (or more) of us at our park service to be the martyr, I'm sure the news media will show up.

in the 2 other counties I know where some church people are bucking the laws (gubernatorial mandates not laws) they have entirely different scenarios happening. One county is close enough I have firsthand knowledge. The other county is 250 miles south and I'm just hearing from a friend who's participating.

again, CA is under very different circumstances than TX. In Houston, Dallas or Austin somebody might get martyred. I have yet to even be mask shamed. Or unmask shamed. Don't know which is right.

Within the conservative Lutheran traditions, the pastor serves the congregation and is not accountable for Caesar’s rules.
The Lutheran Pastor is the protector of Part B of the Establishment Clause, “the free exercise thereof”; AND protected there-under.
Sundry boards make up the accountable leadership.
These are the ones who should be willing to go to jail/be fined.
The property is owned by the members so, that cannot be restricted by the government in any way.
The boards administrate the business affairs of the congregation.
This is the Lutheran concept of “Right hand and Left Hand” (RH=Gospel, LH=secular Law)
And, in the long run, such property is merely passing since “The Church” is the gathered Faithful; people.
Unfortunately, much of the cowardly “leadership” thinks that they are accountable for the property and fear that Caesar would seize that property.
1st Amendment.
Is your church run by a bunch of cowards or by The Gospel?
I am the lone sheep-dog cutting the herd.

We are showing by example that nobody needs to follow the mask, social distancing, no touching roolz. When you're getting the truth to people and the local cops aren't hassling you, do you call in media from some distant real city?

I'm rethinking this.

Since traditional media is now derp media, they will be your enemy and cast your story in a way as to harm you.

But what did you think when you saw that video of hundreds of people having 'church' on the beach?

I felt inspired and hopeful, and I assume many people did. We are the news, now. And by that I mean we citizens. Maybe video tape what you're doing and social media that shiznit. If everybody did that, word would get out and the movement would grow very quickly.

And like I said, they can't arrest everybody.

I would like to see that practice in all aspects of this fake 'lockdown'. ALL businesses open in defiance of mandates. What could they do?

You may say I'm a dreamer. But I'm not the only one.