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Since many of the founding fathers may not have actually been born from citizen parents and since several of them were elected as president after the founding documents were created it is apparent that the tells concept of a natural born citizen was not foremost and their mind.

Since then Congress has passed into law which has been signed by duly elected presidents that people like John McCain or Even Ted Cruz can technically be considered natural born. Love it or hate it Obama was ratified and duly seated as president of the United States for not 1 but 2 terms. Precident And legislative law signed by duly elected presidents has become the law of the land as much as I hated trying to reestablish our laws on books written by 17th or 18th century Frenchman is a waste of time.

It will never be litigated and if it did go to the Supreme Court it would be ruled against… that is that tells definition of natural born citizen being the only definition thereof or even fully understood by all the signers of our constitution documents at the time.

It’s a waste of time to keep argue reading about it.
If that is what they meant and by that I mean all the signers of the declaration and the ratifiers of the Constitution then it has fallen into disuse a street and we won’t be rewriting the Constitution in our lifetime.

It is good that you keep the memory of what once was in scope.
But it will never be seen by the American public and that manner ever again. It has been rendered obsolete, though improperly by our legislation, and precedent.

Why do you say this?

Aren't you aware of the clause in Article II that says "...or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution...?"

They thought enough of it to grandfather in people from other countries who were here at the founding of the country.

Our "charter members," so to speak.

If it's a "tell" of anything, it's that the really DID mean for the President to be citizen children of citizen parents, or they wouldn't have gone out of the way to grandfather in people already here at the time of the framing of the Constitution.

-PJ

Harris is clearly ineligible for the presidency (or to be VP). She is essentially an anchor baby born to two temporary resident aliens and was raised during her most formative years in a foreign land. She was born with multiple conflicting citizenships and allegiances. The Constitution demands that only 100 percent USA citizens through-and-through ever become Commander-in-Chief (out of the three listed presidential job requirements, this one was crafted to protect the Republic from foreign influence and intrigue).

Here are thtee unassailable points of logic that RINOs, leftists, the deep state and New World Order types always run from:

Point 1. The adjective “natural” in the phrase “natural born Citizen” must not be superfluous and without contributing further significant restrictive meaning to the phrase it modifies, therefore a natural born Citizen must be a significantly restricted subset of born citizen (citizen at birth). Clearly the two phrases (citizen at birth and natural born Citizen) must mean significantly different things with the latter being a restrictive subset of the former. To suggest otherwise is insulting to the deliberate, articulate elegance of the Founders who meticulously crafted the Constitution over weeks and months.

Point 2. The Founders wrote the Constitution in simple, everyday language meant to be understood by the ordinary citizen. Words mean things and natural means of or by nature as opposed to of or by man. The only type citizen whose citizenship does not depend on man’s law is a natural born Citizen. All other citizen type are citizens by law, i.e., statutory born citizens.

Why does a natural born Citizen’s citizenship depend on no law? Because they are an inherent 100 percent American solely by the nature (that word again) of their birth circumstances. When one is born in the territory of the USA to two 100 percent USA citizen parents, one is by inherent nature a 100 percent USA citizen because no other outcome is possible, so no law is needed.

Point 3. Three inherent characteristics at birth are generally considered to contribute to citizenship and to one’s natural allegiances, these being: the citizenship of one’s father, the citizenship of one’s mother and the land of one’s birth (normally where one is raised). The Founders’ explicit stated purpose of restricting the presidency to only natural born Citizens was to provide a strong check to prevent the republic from falling prey to a presidency (and military) subverted by foreign influence and intrigue. It strains all logic and common sense to beyond credulity to suggest that the Founders would believe that a strong check would be provided by requiring just one of these characteristics (the least restrictive combination) rather than all three (the most restrictive combination).

"Since many of the founding fathers may not have actually been born from citizen parents and since several of them were elected as president after the founding documents were created it is apparent that the tells concept of a natural born citizen was not foremost and their mind."

The delegates to the Constitutional Convention made the Constitution’s Article II, Section 1, Clause 5 partly to allow themselves and others to run for president regardless if their parents were British subjects for example.

"Article II, Section 1, Clause 5: No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution [emphasis added], shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States."