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To: little jeremiah

Natural Born Citizen:

Minor vs Happersett
In 1875, Chief Justice Morisson Waite wrote the opinion of the court on a unanimous decision, containing the following definition:

>>...the court observed that “new citizens may be born or they may be created by naturalization” and that the Constitution “does not, in words, say who shall be natural-born citizens.” Under the common law, according to the court, “it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners.<<
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This is not the first time you have posted this. You also left off an important quote from that decision:

“Some authorities go further and include as citizens children born within the jurisdiction without reference to the citizenship of their parents. As to this class there have been doubts, but never as to the first. For the purposes of this case it is not necessary to solve these doubts.”

They then went on to rule that a female citizen, Minor, had no right to vote. No one argues that a person born to 2 citizen parents on American soil is NOT a citizen. It is other circumstances that arise which some people doubt.

SCOTUS has never ruled on the particular question of natural born citizen, and Congress has yet to propose an amendment regarding limitation to a person born on American soil to 2 citizen questions.

It is a pointless argument not likely to be settled in my lifetime, and is likely just going to be ridiculed and ignored again.

I was taught that natural born citizen meant born on American soil and to 2 citizen parents, but after researching it—well let’s just say the citizenship of the Father was the thing back when the constitution was written, so perhaps the schools were teaching incorrect history. shrug.


1,352 posted on 08/11/2020 8:13:21 PM PDT by greeneyes ( Moderation In Pursuit of Justice is NO Virtue--LET FREEDOM RING)
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To: greeneyes

to 2 citizen questions= to 2 citizens to resolve these questions.


1,356 posted on 08/11/2020 8:17:56 PM PDT by greeneyes ( Moderation In Pursuit of Justice is NO Virtue--LET FREEDOM RING)
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To: greeneyes

“Some authorities go further and include as citizens children born within the jurisdiction without reference to the citizenship of their parents.

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The above means “citizen”, not “natural born citizen”.

ANyone who read the research threads on this topic has a clear understanding of the matter.


1,367 posted on 08/11/2020 8:46:03 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.)
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To: greeneyes

I agree, the question is not settled. And no on wants to go there.


1,388 posted on 08/11/2020 10:09:28 PM PDT by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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