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To: bitt

see LS’ post

https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3867830/posts?page=118#118

no quibbles, please. he’s either right or he’s not.


446 posted on 07/24/2020 7:16:48 AM PDT by bitt (Let justice be done though the heavens fall - Fiat justitia ruat caelum)
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To: bitt

Some good points, but didn’t know Q does actual polling. Guess he’s gotta get the dig in somewhere.


453 posted on 07/24/2020 7:38:19 AM PDT by prairie dog
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To: bitt

yep, he depends on Barris for polling and voter registration information. Barris does a good job.


489 posted on 07/24/2020 8:40:07 AM PDT by Tobias Grimsley (some things can be spoken, some can not)
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To: bitt

I won’t quibble with his opinions, but I will argue that anyone who thinks polls - regardless of whether they show Trump up or down - are a fair and objective sample of voter intent, is mistaken.

Polls are numbers. I have a the tools on my computer to make any poll say anything you want, it’s called an algorithm and a random number generator.

There are no “peer reviews” of polls. No one to say whether they even polled anyone! Yet conservatives accept them as gospel - I don’t understand it. Have we learned nothing from Q about researching and validating data sources?

Faking a poll is childs play. Faking the internals and cross tabsa is no harder than the rest, just algos and randomization so analysis will be unable to detect a pattern of fakery. If Obama could create a composite girlfriend, a pollster can use stochasitc models to create a composite voter - or a whole fleet of them.

I was convinced since before 2016 that polls have become tools for manipulating and influencing voter behavior, not sampling and reporting it. Polls are fantastically easy to fabricate and the cost is virtually zero, why would the left NOT fake polls when they fake the news, fake data, fabricate what the President says and does, and lie about everything else? Especially when there are NO checks and balances, no peer reviews, no open sourcing, no transparency of their process. Sure they put out “poll results” but I’m talking about the process used to get those results - which so many seem content to accept come from a legitimate scientific sampling - I claim they are manufactured in a C++ program.

As I said, I’m not going to argue with LS or anyone else who feels it’s worth their time to delve into the maths, as far as I’m concerned it’s as futile as arguing about the flatness of the earth because the whole thing is based on a fundamentally incorrect assumption.


496 posted on 07/24/2020 8:50:52 AM PDT by bigbob (Trust Trump. Trust the Plan)
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