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Mexican Cave Find Hints That People Lived in North America 30,000 Years Ago
The Wall Street Journal ^ | 22 July 2020 | Robert Lee Hotz

Posted on 07/22/2020 9:09:36 AM PDT by Theoria

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1 posted on 07/22/2020 9:09:36 AM PDT by Theoria
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2 posted on 07/22/2020 9:10:33 AM PDT by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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To: SunkenCiv

Not covid ping.


3 posted on 07/22/2020 9:11:39 AM PDT by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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Ping.


4 posted on 07/22/2020 9:11:41 AM PDT by rdl6989
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OMG, what color were they?! THAT is all that matters.


5 posted on 07/22/2020 9:12:27 AM PDT by brownsfan (Behold, the power of government cheese.)
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Full Article


6 posted on 07/22/2020 9:13:35 AM PDT by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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Thanks.


7 posted on 07/22/2020 9:14:37 AM PDT by rdl6989
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Let me guess, they found a doll that talks?


8 posted on 07/22/2020 9:15:17 AM PDT by VastRWCon (Fake News)
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Bet they were seeking shelter until the Rio Grande got lower so they could cross the river safely.


9 posted on 07/22/2020 9:15:28 AM PDT by econjack
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Those ancient people were pretty good predictors. A friend of mine was on the expedition. He photographed a message that was on one wall of the cave.


10 posted on 07/22/2020 9:19:15 AM PDT by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: Theoria

Bull puckey. I see they use the word “hints” which tell me this is pure conjecture, and a politicization of archeology. At best they came a few thousand years ago.


11 posted on 07/22/2020 9:27:04 AM PDT by Sam Gamgee
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So, this is different than the crap they sifted through in Paisley, Oregon?


12 posted on 07/22/2020 9:34:34 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer”)
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I’m going to find a cave and drop a load in it.

Then, I’ll pour BBs on top of it.

Ten thousand years from now, some scientist will look at it and say,

“Look at that! They ate round metal back then.”


13 posted on 07/22/2020 9:38:20 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer”)
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These are not necessarily the ancestors of the people who were here when the Spanish and other Europeans arrived. I don’t think there’s anything political about it.

It’s very interesting and it would be interesting to see the artifacts.


14 posted on 07/22/2020 9:43:07 AM PDT by livius
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Thanks Theoria and rdl6989.

15 posted on 07/22/2020 10:01:51 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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LOL

Well played.


16 posted on 07/22/2020 10:04:27 AM PDT by Salamander (Flying Colours....)
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Wouldn’t it be hilarious if there was already a population in the America’s that was then displaced by “Native” Americans that camp over the land bridge?


17 posted on 07/22/2020 10:09:25 AM PDT by Terabitten (Breathe. Relax. Aim. Squeeze.)
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/laughs in Solutrean


18 posted on 07/22/2020 10:11:53 AM PDT by Salamander (Flying Colours....)
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To: Theoria
As an college-trained amateur archaeologist, I usually agree with aging methods and eveolution but this one has me a little concerned...

These new finds at Chiquihuite Cave, located almost 9,000 feet above sea level and about 400 miles northwest of Mexico City...

So what were climatic conditions then?

Did elevations over a mile high not have glaciers? How cold would this height be in the middle of the last glaciation?

According to a GREAT book I have After the Ice: a global human history, 20.000–5.000 BC:

(you all should buy it!)

...[the] growth of ice sheets commenced 33,000 years ago and maximum coverage was between 26,500 years and 19–20,000 years ago, when deglaciation commenced in the Northern Hemisphere...

It is hard to find information on the specific Ice Age climate in Mexico...I found this on quora, however:

Just north of Mexico city at the same elevation is Atotonilco de Tula (altitude of 6,634 ft.), where they just unearthed a large trove of fossils. Sounds pretty cold to me, maybe even as cold the climate of present day Nova Scotia, Canada — some snow but not many swings in temperature in the former due to the southern exposure to sun and subtropics and the latter presently due to the ocean influence. But drier with the inland location.

“including mastodons, mammoths, camels, horses, deer and glyptodons, the armadillo's ancestor. Some bones may belong to bison, while others have not been identified.”

It actually sounds pretty nice, with lots of food to hunt.

19 posted on 07/22/2020 10:14:19 AM PDT by Alas Babylon! (The prisons do not fill themselves. Get moving, Barr!)
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Cheddar Mang.


20 posted on 07/22/2020 10:23:22 AM PDT by Mr. Blond
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