Posted on 07/15/2020 7:23:52 AM PDT by rintintin
My Father-in-Law was a combat veteran of the Phillipines. He called him Dugout Doug too, but it was really out of ignorance.
MacArthur was known by his men in WWI to be extremely brave.
Only because you don't know his record.
Dougout Doug was most likely coined by FDR's campaign due to fears that MacArthur would run for president in 1944. The left ran with the meme ever since.
MacArthur was known by his men in WWI to be extremely brave.
And in WWII and Korea.
Who came up with that lyric? Was it really disgruntled US troops, or Japanese - or even communist - propagandists?
Btw, American communists hated Macarthur from long before WWIi, at least since his assault on the red-infiltrated bonus marchers.
Back during HomerSimpson's daily multi year WWII threads, we researched that and found in first printed stateside approximately in time for the 1944 election campaign season. Only later did we find puzzled references to it in Australian press.
BTW, MacCarthur was terribly sea-sick the whole time.
Seas were rough. I believe all the landlubbers aboard were sick.
“Where do you find this take on how it went down?”
I’ve read that in a couple of places myself. Old, too many concussions, etc., can’t remember where right now. It may come to me at some random time.
We shouldn’t forget that later in the war and in its aftermath the full fury of fake news was focused on him to keep him out of the White House. For instance, he was blamed for Nimitz’s “island hopping,” even though he had nothing to do with it.
“Seas were rough. I believe all the landlubbers aboard were sick.”
Let he who puketh not cast the first insult.
The Philippines are on the west side of the International Date Line so it would have been Sunday night there, not Saturday night.
LOL! From reading MacArthur's own account, the long journey across high seas was a particularly unpleasant experience.
I can understand because in Louisiana and Rhode Island I've been offshore many times, sometimes in rough seas. I always use Dramamine. I almost always am fine but sometimes, I feel queasy. No idea why.
One time, I was out in a small craft in ~3-4 ft seas with Dramamine but still felt absolutely miserable, laying down on the centerline of the boat and on the brink of vomiting for several hours while everyone else caught fish. I've never been so glad of anything as when we finally got back to the dock and I set foot on terra firma.
Yes, it is a truly miserable experience.
Why didn't you ask me?
For starters, read Pulitzer Prize winner John Toland's interviews with surviving pilots in the Philippines as recorded in his book "But Not in Shame
A person can never understand the misery until they have experienced it.
I was 9 when the war began. I can verify those were very difficult times and we were fortunate to come out as well as we did.
I see you exclusively read leftist sources.
Only because your information about him comes from leftist sources.
You get it from non-leftist sources who were actually there.
Ignoring PLA south of the Yalu was another good one on Mac.
Island hopping and Inchon were brilliant. Overall, still think he was pompous. Nothing to do with leftist sources. For what it’s worth, I’m old enough to have lived in a bygone time when the left had not polluted every aspect of culture and history.
Any ignoring of the PLA buildup on the Yalu was done by the State Department and CIA.
Macarthur was well aware of the PLA buildup. MacArthur's failure was his failure to understand that Truman, the president who turned China red and was responsible for the Korean War by stating Korea was not in the American zone of interest would not treat large scale Chinese intervention on the Korean peninsula as an act of war.
Macarthur believed that no Chinese commander would hazard large scale intervention on the Korean peninsula given the ability of largely unopposed American air power to strike at will their bases of attack and lines of supply both north and south of the Yalu. The risk of utter destruction of Chinese forces on the Korean peninsula through lack of supply would be too great.
Macarthur's failure was not to recognize what was happening along the Yalu but rather his failure to recognize the changed political landscape in a Washington infested with Leftists.
Nothing to do with leftist sources.
I disagree.
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