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It’s just the flu, bro.

A Flubro mentioned this yesterday. I guess this cheap steroid, which acts as an anti inflammatory agent in the lungs, is good at treating CV, which harms people by causing an inflammatory response in the lungs.

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/06/cheap-steroid-first-drug-shown-reduce-death-covid-19-patients

As treatments improve the death rate will continue to drop. A declaration that the epidemic is over must be coming soon. An infectious disease needs to be above a minimum threshold death rate to be called an epidemic. And we are already below that threshold.

1 posted on 07/12/2020 4:48:14 AM PDT by impimp
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2 posted on 07/12/2020 4:49:01 AM PDT by impimp
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There is an overall typical failure to to differentiate btwn different fatality rates, and one reason for the all-ages general “shutdown” is because the fatality rate is exaggerated by typically citing the case fatality rate (CFR) - which is high since it refers to those who were known or suspected to be infected and died, and overall, those who have tested positive are those who had symptoms, thus were the most likely to die - but as World Meters states[1],

The key point is that the “case fatality rate”, the most commonly discussed measure of the risk of dying What we want to know isn’t the case fatality rate: it’s the infection fatality rate.

The latter refers to those estimated to be infected but not tested as being so, and which by far is the majority, with about 80% of such not having symptoms or recovering without medical care. [2] And as regards (even) New York City - which is an extreme case, WorldMeters stated that of May 1,

the Infection Fatality Rate (IFR) = Deaths / Cases = 23,430 / 1,694,781 = 1.4% (1.4% of people infected with SARS-CoV-2 have a fatal outcome, while 98.6% recover).

However, and even more accurate figure as regards the threat COVID-19 poses is that of the Crude Mortality Rate (CMR) that of deaths per 100,000, and Worldometers stated that

As of May 1, 23,430 people are estimated to have died out of a total population of 8,398,748 in New York City. This corresponds to a 0.28% crude mortality rate to date, or 279 deaths per 100,000 population, or 1 death every 358 people.

Then you have the Mortality Rate by Age, regarding which,

“in New York City up to May 12, only 690 (4.5% of all deaths) occurred in patients under the age of 65 who did not have an underlying medical condition.” While those under 65-year-old had a 0.09% CMR to date.

So far there has been 1 death every 1,166 people under 65 years old (compared to 1 death every 358 people in the general population). And 89% of the times, the person who died had one or more underlying medical conditions.

And as noted, NYC is an outlier, with a far higher rate of infections, much due to population density and the harmful pratice of sending infected persons to nursing homes. And close to half of all COVID-19 deaths have occurred in long-term care facilities, especially elder care facilities which account for over 40% of US deaths. [3] [4]

Which means that the 99.4 percent of the country that does not reside in those facilities is roughly half as likely to die of COVID-19,[8] even to the fatality rate of COVID-19 probably being “0.13 percent for people outside nursing homes and 0.26 percent — identical to the CDC best estimate — when people in nursing homes were included.”[5]

See Does COVID-19 truly warrant a nationwide shutdown? for more.

The second reason for the unprecedented reaction to COVID-19 is that of the Democrat political goal to strangle the economy and thereby obtain the White House and force submission to its many immoral demonic and murderous goals.

Footnotes

[1] Mortality Risk of COVID-19 - Statistics and Research
[2] https://www.who.int/docs/default-source/coronaviruse/situation-reports/20200306-sitrep-46-covid-19.pdf?sfvrsn=96b04adf_4#:~:text=For%20COVID%2D19%2C,infections%2C%20requiring%20ventilation.
[3] STAGGERING: Nursing Home Residents Account for a Whopping 43.4% of COVID-19 Deaths, Even Though They're Less Than 1% of the U.S. Population
[4] More Than 40% of U.S. Coronavirus Deaths Are Linked to Nursing Homes
[5] https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/tell-me-what-to-do-please-even-experts-struggle-with-coronavirus-unknowns/2020/05/25/e11f9870-9d08-11ea-ad09-8da7ec214672_story.html

3 posted on 07/12/2020 5:00:25 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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To: impimp
An infectious disease needs to be above a minimum threshold death rate to be called an epidemic

The current Crude Morality Rate is 415 Americans out of 100,000, which I think translates into a 0.42 percentage, but that is skewed by deaths of the very aged and unhealthy, and high rates in New Jersey, New York, Connecticut, Massachusetts, and includes deaths of those presumed to be infected.

4 posted on 07/12/2020 5:09:15 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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IBK


7 posted on 07/12/2020 5:14:02 AM PDT by Mom MD
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Hey, where’s the “head up the butt” guy?


11 posted on 07/12/2020 5:29:00 AM PDT by PilotDave (No, really, you just can't make this stuff up!!)
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+732 DEAD
+61,719 NEW CASES
137,403 TOTAL DEAD


21 posted on 07/12/2020 5:57:52 AM PDT by Kozak (DIVERSITY+PROXIMITY=CONFLICT)
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Anybody seen any studies along the odds of dying of Covid linked to the past flu vaccine? There are some nasty rumors that the flu vaccine greatly increases the odds of the cytokine storm reaction.

I was wondering if that was possible, or the death rate disparity was just a general immune weakness triggered by the vaccine.

Perhaps it’s just all rumors...


22 posted on 07/12/2020 6:03:14 AM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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Here’s a good one page reference to a lot of data.

https://www.ftportfolios.com/Common/ContentFileLoader.aspx?ContentGUID=5cb7d973-25cf-4995-82c9-f58a0d81dc93


29 posted on 07/12/2020 6:43:33 AM PDT by jdsteel (Americans are Dreamers too!!!)
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Dr. Atlas: Coronavirus surges linked mostly to protests — and proximity to US-Mexico border:

‘Protesting, sharing megaphones, screaming ... That’s a setup to spread cases,’ Atlas says
By Victor Garcia | Fox News

Dr. Scott Atlas on the state of the pandemic as daily infections approach 70,000:

Senior Fellow at The Hoover Institution, Dr. Scott Atlas, joins Jon Scott on ‘Fox Report Weekend.’

The recent surges in U.S. coronavirus cases can be traced to two key factors — crowds of protesters and proximity to the U.S.-Mexico border, Dr. Scott Atlas, a senior fellow at The Hoover Institution, said Saturday night.

Most of the cases in the Southwest — California, Arizona and Texas — are occuring in counties closest to the U.S.-Mexico border, Atlas told anchor Jon Scott during an appearance on on “Fox Report Weekend.”

“When you look in the southern counties of California, Arizona and the bordering counties of Texas — with the Mexico border — these are where most of these cases are really exploding,” Atlas said. “And then you look at the Mexico map and in Mexico, that’s where their cases are. Their cases are in the northern border zone states. And it turns out the timeline here correlates much more to the Mexico timeline of increasing cases than anything else.”

IN FLORIDA, OVER 40 HOSPITALS MAX OUT ICU CAPACITY AMID CORONAVIRUS SURGE

Spikes in Texas, Florida and Arizona don’t essentially line up with reopening but with Mexico’s surge and the recent protests that have gripped the U.S., Atlas said.

“When you really look closely at these so-called re-opening policies, whether it’s in Georgia or Florida or Texas, you know, we didn’t really see a big correlation of cases and hospitalizations from that,” Atlas said. “That’s really not true. That’s sort of some sloppy thinking, I think, again. We really ... have to look closely at why these things are happening.

“By the way. California didn’t really reopen. Yet they have cases coming up. Why is that? I mean, that’s because these cases don’t really correlate to that.”

‘A setup to spread cases’:
“They correlate mainly to two things — the big thousands and thousands of people with protesting, sharing megaphones, screaming. That’s a setup to spread cases,” Atlas said. “And also when you look at the analysis of the border counties, there’s a tremendous amount of cases coming over the border and exchanging with families in the northern Mexico states.”

Atlas also explained the hospital capacity situation in Texas and Arizona.

“So the real concern that that I see right now is that there are hospitals getting crowded in their ICUs and this is clearly a concern,” Atlas said. “The crowding is from the reinstatement of regular medical care, which is actually very important. We have locked that down before and that policy kills people. So we don’t want to go back to that.”

https://www.foxnews.com/media/dr-atlas-coronavirus-surges-linked-mostly-to-protests-and-proximity-to-us-mexico-border


30 posted on 07/12/2020 7:02:21 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Lincoln: "The Founders did not make America racist or slaver. They inherited it, that way!")
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33 posted on 07/12/2020 7:27:08 AM PDT by S.O.S121.500 (Had ENOUGH Yet ? ........................ Enforce the Bill of Rights .........It is the LAW.)
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To: impimp
Overall mortality rate (OMR) is the number of reported deaths divided by the total population, expressed as a percentage.

The overall mortality rate for nCov-2 is 0.040% (data from the CDC collected Friday, 10 July 20, the last day for which data are available).

To put this in context:
Spanish Flu of 1918 -- OMR = 0.65% No panic, MLB continues as usual
Asian Flu of 1957 -- OMR = 0.067% No panic
Hong Kong Flu of 1968 -- OMR = 0.049% No panic
Covid-19 of 2020 -- OMR = 0.040% Widespread panic!

40 posted on 07/12/2020 9:05:30 AM PDT by sima_yi ( Reporting live from the far North)
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Is anybody in the U.S. using ivermectin?


41 posted on 07/12/2020 11:02:54 AM PDT by ConjunctionJunction
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Another thread: The Coronavirus Tracking Project’s Numbers are Suspect After They Are Caught Tacking On Previous Deaths to Current Totals
43 posted on 07/12/2020 12:13:36 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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If it is not an epidemic, then it is also not a pandemic, no? Or at least not a pendemic in areas where it is not an epidemic. Like South Dakota.


52 posted on 07/12/2020 4:19:07 PM PDT by meyer (WWG1WGA, MAGA! Derps vs. Patriots, choose your side.)
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