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To: caver

“Well, Epstein didn’t kill himself.”

I think it’s very likely he killed himself.

The Medical Examiner made a finding of suicide.

The autopsy expert financed by the family to free the life insurance money by overturning the finding came up with every thing he could to cast doubt, but never directly claimed the Medical Examiner was wrong because he couldn’t.

The county in charge of the investigation ignored him since he had nothing concrete.

He just worked around the edges, claiming a couple of things (neck wound and broken hyoid bones) ‘could’ indicate homicide.

His “findings” were found and noted by the Medical Examiner. The “challenge that wasn’t a challenge” wasn’t nearly enough to trigger a homicide investigation.

All that’s left is a conspiracy claim that would require a lot of people involved who will have to keep the secret for the rest of their lives. Weak.

He should get together with OJ, who is an expert at finding “real killers”.

Mr. Sex addict knew he wasn’t going to average he 3 communal sex acts a day anymore and his future wasn’t going to be any fun. He had good reason to kill himself.


24 posted on 07/04/2020 10:56:15 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods (Prediction: G. Maxwell will surprise everyone by not dying anytime soon.)
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To: SaxxonWoods

Sorry, but...

No/sleeping guards -might- be a coincidence.
That and broken recording equipment on a high value prisoner with a high likelyhood of a suicide attempt is not.


34 posted on 07/04/2020 11:08:26 AM PDT by The Antiyuppie (When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.)
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To: SaxxonWoods

“Mr. Sex addict knew he wasn’t going to average he 3 communal sex acts a day anymore and his future wasn’t going to be any fun. He had good reason to kill himself.”

He had every reason to think the Deep State would spring him if he just kept his mouth shut.


36 posted on 07/04/2020 11:09:22 AM PDT by dsc (As for the foundations of the Catholic faith, this pontificate is an outrage to reason.)
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To: SaxxonWoods

While your explanation makes sense, you and about three other people believed the guy killed himself.

Small club.


51 posted on 07/04/2020 11:25:24 AM PDT by Fishtalk
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To: SaxxonWoods

“Mr. Sex addict knew he wasn’t going to average he 3 communal sex acts a day anymore and his future wasn’t going to be any fun. He had good reason to kill himself.”

Not a nut job conspiracy theory. As another poster noted: we have a high value prisoner, with 2 sleeping guards and broken cameras. To me another important point is that Epstein was not in a hopeless legal situation. He had previously struck a plea deal on similar charges and served his time (I know the sentence was a joke) he had a shot at a double jeopardy defense and the money to pay good lawyers to pursue it. The Feds would know that, plus even more time had passed since the first case making prosecution even harder the 2nd time. Epstein had gotten off easy once and someone (arrogant egotistical) like him could believe it would happen again. It’s reasonable to think suicide would not enter his mind until months or years later after a judge had handed down a decades long sentence and all appeals had been exhausted.


66 posted on 07/04/2020 11:47:13 AM PDT by nomorelurker
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To: SaxxonWoods
I think it’s very likely he killed himself.

My opinion is different. To me, it looks like he was strangled with a ligature--wire, rope, shoestring-- to me, rather than a knotted sheet. The marks on his neck are bloody and narrow, which to me implies high pressure per unit area.

I don't think you get that from a twisted up sheet.

Fair warning: I am not a coroner, and my forensic knowledge has not been enhanced by a recent stay at a Holiday Inn. In my area, most hotels are shut down for the virus and haven't reopened.

80 posted on 07/04/2020 12:19:19 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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