Hey Bob, I would have probably seen this entire situation the same as you about a year ago. I always thought that most police were good, the few bad apples needed to be weeded out through them. For some odd reason, my you tube radar started suggesting 1st and 2nd amendment audits. At first, I was thinking the auditors were kind of rude. But with time, I realized how tyrannical our police force has gotten.
Make no mistake, I am not talking about real crimes, like murder, looting, kidnapping. But, I am talking about petty traffic stops. Or worse, no traffic stop, just somebody filming them in public. Everyday there is a new video with police barking orders, asking needless questions to private citizens, asking for id when no crime has been committed. I know it has been determined that it is ok for police to lie, I understand the need for this in dealing with real crimes, but for traffic stops? Far too much of the time the police are treating law abiding citizens like criminals.
One of the paradigm shifting moments came when you tube recommended the old video of the salt lake city nurse who refused to do a blood draw. I want to refresh your memory on this. A truck driver victim was brought in to this nurses hospital. He was unconscious. He was involved in a head on collision due to a high speed chase involving the slc police. The person they were chasing hit his truck, and the driver involved in the chase was killed. I think most of us can put 2 and 2 together to figure out why the police were so desperate for a blood draw on this hapless truck driving victim. The nurse refused. The reason was that the patient had to be under arrest, or had to have an arrest warrant out. Again, this man was the victim. The only legal way for her to do a blood draw was if he consented. That was not possible. So, the officer told her SHE was under arrest. This officer was arresting her because she refused to violate this mans 4th amendment right. This is not a legal arrest, this is a kidnapping. She started to scream and ran, the officer grabbed her around her waist and drug her outside. All the while 3 armed men stood there and watched. Where were the good cops? I know we are conditioned to believe if we just let the process work, we will get justice. However, all this corruption goes all the way to the top. Thankfully for cameras, that video went viral, and they didn’t get away with this. I remember at that time being happy that the “bad cop” got fired. But now, I’m like wait, what about the other cops. Would they have stepped in if a ceo had grabbed her and drug her outside? How about an airline pilot? A doctor? I’m pretty sure they would have intervened. But, when it is one of their own breaking the law, they look the other way.
As far as your video, I don’t see any redeeming qualities in any of them. It looks like the cop thought the woman was a victim, but then harassed her for 8 minutes to give up her Constitutional rights to her id. The other cop opened her car door, which again, he had no legal right to do. So then the person the cop already says he thinks is a victim gets drug out of the car and arrested. Cops are supposed to de-escalate, not ratchet it up like this. JMHO
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Re: “Cops are supposed to de-escalate, not ratchet it up like this. JMHO”
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Yup. And then there is the topic of civil asset forfeiture. Don’t get me wrong, I support the police. But there are policies out there that need to be reformed.
The LV situation is a good reminder, of how we have to be ever vigilant about our rights. I don’t blame most of the cops, I blame their bosses who lay out the rules of engagement. How many police chiefs did we hear about kneeling with protesters? Whenever there’s a shooting or other major event and a local sheriff or chief get on national TV it doesn’t take long to determine whether he gives a damn about his people or is just another mealy-mouthed politician.
I assume you got that this wasn’t just a busted tailight stop - it was a suspected domestic battery in process and that in Illinois there’s a law that requires detainees to give correct ID under penalty of law. Whether that’s a good law or not, the cops had the right to arrest her and charge her with that violation.
Giving your ID isn’t the same as being forced to draw blood, as I’m sure you realize, but yes it’s always been a brotherhood and cops tend to stick up for each other, sometimes when they shouldn’t. Maybe moreso now when they feel they have little support from their superiors.