The LV situation is a good reminder, of how we have to be ever vigilant about our rights. I don’t blame most of the cops, I blame their bosses who lay out the rules of engagement. How many police chiefs did we hear about kneeling with protesters? Whenever there’s a shooting or other major event and a local sheriff or chief get on national TV it doesn’t take long to determine whether he gives a damn about his people or is just another mealy-mouthed politician.
I assume you got that this wasn’t just a busted tailight stop - it was a suspected domestic battery in process and that in Illinois there’s a law that requires detainees to give correct ID under penalty of law. Whether that’s a good law or not, the cops had the right to arrest her and charge her with that violation.
Giving your ID isn’t the same as being forced to draw blood, as I’m sure you realize, but yes it’s always been a brotherhood and cops tend to stick up for each other, sometimes when they shouldn’t. Maybe moreso now when they feel they have little support from their superiors.
The LV situation is a good reminder, of how we have to be ever vigilant about our rights. I dont blame most of the cops, I blame their bosses who lay out the rules of engagement.
Thanks for your thoughtful comments, however, I wholeheartedly disagree with this comment. Police officers cannot violate someones Constitutional rights. They are not above the law. If someone is telling them to do so, they are asking them to break the law. I have never worked for anyone who asked me to break the law. If, a previous boss had asked me to break the law, I would have quit. Those are the only choices. Quit and expose.
One more point. You mentioned that you didn’t think showing id was as bad as a blood draw. These petty little tyrants will use any name in a police report if they want to. The next thing, your on a no fly list. Or, a claim that you broke some new red flag law, now you can’t buy a gun. It is very dangerous. That’s why the founders put the 4th where they did. It’s important. Unless there was suspicion that the female had broken some law, she should have been left alone. not harassed for 8 minutes for an id.